A Simpler Time

[SunBat]

This is an open invitation to folks who are interested primarily in the lost art of ACM and Furballs.

It seems the predominance of speed of the late war plane set has created a culture of non-engagement and serious timidity.  The favorite tactic these days is staying high and fast, pulling no more than 3G when engaging and then running off if the prey shows any semblance of skill in fighting at a disadvantage.

Engagements lack the edge of your seat excitement of a furball circa 2003. 

The best times I've had in AH since returning are the times when the LWMA is closed and people fly in Midwar.  The planes are slower, slightly less lethal, and this leads to more interesting fights.

So I invite more players to come experience the Midwar arena during peak hours.  Give up your P51Ds, 109K4s, La7s, Doras and jump into the fray. 

Let me translate: WAH, WAH, WAH!!!!  I want 2003 back.

[SunBat]

I used to regularly fly in the MW arena for many years because I've always felt it had the best plane matchups and you were able to find some good quality fights but that has changed over the years and it's just become a mini-LW arena.  Last time I was in there a few months ago, players were more focused on hording undefended bases than fighting.  There was one squadron, (a FA refugee squad) that would do anything they could to avoid any sort of fight unless they had overwhelming numbers against the sole bandit.  Another squadron would hord undefended bases and then leave if defenders started to up and would move on to the next undefended base.  It grew quite tiresome.

ack-ack

Let me translate: I like midwar cuz the P-38 is easy mode there.

[Arlo]

Are you a online forum English to English translator for a living or are you practicing for the day? 

[Ack-Ack]

Let me translate: I like midwar cuz the P-38 is easy mode there.

P-38J isn't easy mode there at all, just like its not in the LW arena.  The plane set in the MW arena has the best plane match up with all planes being competitive against each other.  The only stand outs would probably be the Spitfire VIII and the Typhoon.

ack-ack

[The Fury]

I don't mind it when people in faster planes run from turny planes when they get in trouble, its when they turn back around once one of there friends engage you that bugs me. If your going to run stay out when your buddy tries to do what you couldn't do!

[Max]

Fat chance.

[gyrene81]

Let me translate: WAH, WAH, WAH!!!!  I want 2003 back.

Let me translate: I like midwar cuz the P-38 is easy mode there.

sounds like Sunbat has a problem with midwar...is it can't compete or don't like getting spanked?

[Dead Man Flying]

sounds like Sunbat has a problem with midwar...is it can't compete or don't like getting spanked?

More like badly trolling.

[gyrene81]

More like badly trolling.

i thought Sunsfan did that...

[HellsAce]

I used to regularly fly in the MW arena for many years because I've always felt it had the best plane matchups and you were able to find some good quality fights but that has changed over the years and it's just become a mini-LW arena.  Last time I was in there a few months ago, players were more focused on hording undefended bases than fighting.  There was one squadron, (a FA refugee squad) that would do anything they could to avoid any sort of fight unless they had overwhelming numbers against the sole bandit.  Another squadron would hord undefended bases and then leave if defenders started to up and would move on to the next undefended base.  It grew quite tiresome.

ack-ack

Who exactly are you referring to???

[Latrobe]

I don't mind the fast planes using their speed. It's what fast planes do, use your advantages. The thing that kind of bugs me is (like earlier today) when I'm at an enemy base alone, there are 2,3, maybe even 5 bad guys in the air.... but none of them want to leave their ack. You have me out numbered!! I DO NOT CARE if you bring all 5 of your planes to attack me all at once. Why hide in the ack when you have such a numerical advantage!!? That's really the only thing that bugs me about other people play styles. Other than that I do not mind how you fly your plane.

It's times like that that I wish there was a code in the game where if you are airborne but have been circling your own base for 2 minutes (ack hugging) then you get a message in the text buffer saying "Cowards and Traitors will be shot!" and your own base ack starts shooting you.

[Arlo]

I don't mind the fast planes using their speed. It's what fast planes do, use your advantages. The thing that kind of bugs me is (like earlier today) when I'm at an enemy base alone, there are 2,3, maybe even 5 bad guys in the air.... but none of them want to leave their ack. You have me out numbered!! I DO NOT CARE if you bring all 5 of your planes to attack me all at once. Why hide in the ack when you have such a numerical advantage!!? That's really the only thing that bugs me about other people play styles. Other than that I do not mind how you fly your plane.

It's times like that that I wish there was a code in the game where if you are airborne but have been circling your own base for 2 minutes (ack hugging) then you get a message in the text buffer saying "Cowards and Traitors will be shot!" and your own base ack starts shooting you.

If you are the sole plane at cruise speed that has alt over the lot, numerical advantage doesn't mean much unless you're prone to being suckered into a low and slow fight. Each one of those fighters that enjoy the huge advantage of numbers are likely low and slow and plump picking outside of their ack. That's 2, 3 or 5 easy kills. After some time there may have been a chance that one of them reached cruise speed and was co-alt. Did you bring enough fuel and patience for that possibility, oh 'look how scared they are of me?'  Other than that, why didn't you zoom through that ack and nail 1,2,3,4 or 5 of them? You may have gotten lucky.

P.S. If ya really want to blame someone, blame HT. There must have been a reason he modeled base ack like, I don't know, at least a small measure of vulch suppression? (And, really now, when has it really stopped that, entirely?) 

[Latrobe]

If you are the sole plane at cruise speed that has alt over the lot, numerical advantage doesn't mean much unless you're prone to being suckered into a low and slow fight. Each one of those fighters that enjoy the huge advantage of numbers are likely low and slow and plump picking outside of their ack. That's 2, 3 or 5 easy kills. After some time there may have been a chance that one of them reached cruise speed and was co-alt. Did you bring enough fuel and patience for that possibility, oh 'look how scared they are of me?'  Other than that, why didn't you zoom through that ack and nail 1,2,3,4 or 5 of them? You may have gotten lucky.

P.S. If ya really want to blame someone, blame HT. There must have been a reason he modeled base ack like, I don't know, at least a small measure of vulch suppression? (And, really now, when has it really stopped that, entirely?) 

If you've seen me fly, you know I don't fly with alt. You can usually find me at 1,000ft in most furballs. When I got to their base I was at 5K since I had just finished chasing a 190D around, but since none of them were leaving the ack I dropped down to 500ft to try and convince them to leave the ack. Some of them started to come out when I showed them my 6, but the second I started to turn they all turned around and went back to the ack. They could have easily of won the fight but they chose not to, and that bugs me when people don't take such a perfect opportunity to improve their skills.

[ACE]

i thought Sunsfan did that...

He tries his best!  But...  We know what that means

[Triton28]

If you are the sole plane at cruise speed that has alt over the lot, numerical advantage doesn't mean much unless you're prone to being suckered into a low and slow fight. Each one of those fighters that enjoy the huge advantage of numbers are likely low and slow and plump picking outside of their ack. That's 2, 3 or 5 easy kills. After some time there may have been a chance that one of them reached cruise speed and was co-alt. Did you bring enough fuel and patience for that possibility, oh 'look how scared they are of me?'  Other than that, why didn't you zoom through that ack and nail 1,2,3,4 or 5 of them? You may have gotten lucky.

P.S. If ya really want to blame someone, blame HT. There must have been a reason he modeled base ack like, I don't know, at least a small measure of vulch suppression? (And, really now, when has it really stopped that, entirely?)  

You have never seen Latrobe fly, have you?