Author Topic: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?  (Read 9844 times)

Offline icepac

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2013, 02:07:54 PM »
Sorry Icepac, but those definitely don't look as good as AH.  I agree AH's graphics are quite dated, but that is hyperbole.

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2013, 02:08:30 PM »
How did my name come up in this thread?

Shush titanic3.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2013, 02:23:09 PM »
How did my name come up in this thread?
Me running on three hours of sleep.  My apologies.  I will edit the comment.
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2013, 06:36:43 PM »
The obvious answer to the OP's question is no. Experience and the concept that the simplest answer to an observation is often more correct, points towards the obvious.

With our current technology you can have War Thunder like air simm games or you can have Aces High like air simm games. If you combine the two you can have a game either priced out of the reach of everyone due to a very low number of subscribers with the funds and PC's uber enough to run it. Or a limited number of players with the PC uber enough to play it. If it was doable it we wouldn't be having this conversation. We would be paying the genius who created it our $14.95 and whining at him about something else we don't have to programing skills to create for ourselves.

As for instant action and limited time. It's obvious Aces High will not support that requirement since it's arenas are populated with unherdable cats. Blaming Aces High's format for not wanting to play it due to limited personal time, is like blaming a Letcher's letching on the girl wearing the mini skirt. No game can make everyone happy, and it's not Hitech's fault your life has changed impacting your available fun time. Instant action games abound on the Internet. Why cheap shot Hitech for not reformatting his game to your changed life status.

Dear Hitech,

Please send a monthly questionnaire to all of your paying customers asking them how their life has changed in the hopes you can constantly change the game to suit their needs. Some of your customers feel it is very rude of you to not meet those needs as they neglect to update you concerning the changes in their personal status. Is it possible your mind reading equipment is in need of it's 10,000 hour overhaul? Or your genius machine from the 22nd century is malfunctioning and needs to be sent home for repairs? Oh!! And your Blatantly Obvious machine seems to be a bit out of calibration these days. I guess Skuzzy is not qualified to maintain hardware that leverages quantum mechanics and entanglement. I suppose it's a lot like herding cats trying to get all those strings back in the boxes.
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2013, 02:52:17 AM »
The obvious answer to the OP's question is no. Experience and the concept that the simplest answer to an observation is often more correct, points towards the obvious.

With our current technology you can have War Thunder like air simm games or you can have Aces High like air simm games. If you combine the two you can have a game either priced out of the reach of everyone due to a very low number of subscribers with the funds and PC's uber enough to run it. Or a limited number of players with the PC uber enough to play it.

Umm WT claims they have 2 million subs already. So obviously there are a LOT of people who have the hardware.
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2013, 03:26:58 AM »
The majority of online gamers have computers that can handle any graphic update HTC could produce. The way this community has so many people using extremly outdated computers is very rare in the gaming world. I hope we get an extensive graphics overhaul even if it means existing players would have to upgrade their machines to play. When the latest and greatest games for graphic heavy content launch each year hundreds of thousands of gamers upgrade their comps to be able to play those titles.
Keeping your computer up to date with the times is part of playing online games or any game.. Hence why we are at PS4 now and not still stuck with the PS1.. You gotta keep up with the tech to play the titles.

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2013, 09:06:52 AM »
When the latest and greatest games for graphic heavy content launch each year hundreds of thousands of gamers upgrade their comps to be able to play those titles.
Keeping your computer up to date with the times is part of playing online games or any game..
I have a feeling that a big portion of those who get the new titles are kids who try to play it with the cheap family laptop. Or at best on a cheap market "gaming computer". There's a constant flow of threads on both of the tech forums here where "players" ask why their brand new computer shows grey squares instead of icons etc. Surprisingly many "players" of any age can't read the requirements for any game, bought online or in a box. I just wonder how many future pc-players are being lost forever just because their hardware isn't par with the games they'd like to play. It's much easier to buy a game with a tag "PS3" for your PlayStation3 than a game with a tag "PC" which could mean anything dating from late seventies. Besides the requirements info on PC game packages has always been printed unreadably small, and I'm not referring to my aging eyes. No wonder PC gaming has a reputation of being somewhat difficult only a computer geek can accomplish. That's what I've heard from many parents when they ask for advice before buying a new computer. "Our teens aren't into PC gaming, they use the <console>. So we'd only need something for banking and e-mails..."
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2013, 03:21:44 PM »
The majority of online gamers have computers that can handle any graphic update HTC could produce.

Except clouds, maybe, eh?  :D

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »
The majority of online gamers have computers that can handle any graphic update HTC could produce. The way this community has so many people using extremly outdated computers is very rare in the gaming world. I hope we get an extensive graphics overhaul even if it means existing players would have to upgrade their machines to play. When the latest and greatest games for graphic heavy content launch each year hundreds of thousands of gamers upgrade their comps to be able to play those titles.
Keeping your computer up to date with the times is part of playing online games or any game.. Hence why we are at PS4 now and not still stuck with the PS1.. You gotta keep up with the tech to play the titles.
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2013, 04:01:28 PM »
The realtime raytracing option in AH is a model example of a misguided graphics code. It's basically a very resource expensive feature that adds no value to the image quality, most people won't even notice if it's on or off from the image quality.

HTC would need a modern graphics engine but obviously they don't have the in-house resources to do that.
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #100 on: August 10, 2013, 04:20:19 PM »
The realtime raytracing option in AH is a model example of a misguided graphics code. It's basically a very resource expensive feature that adds no value to the image quality, most people won't even notice if it's on or off from the image quality.

HTC would need a modern graphics engine but obviously they don't have the in-house resources to do that.
This, good graphics engines and efficient graphic engines are very different. My friend has a gt 620 OEM and can play any game he wants in 720p (this is including BFBC2 and BF3) because those games are engines which are balanced (unloading details at long range for example)
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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #101 on: August 10, 2013, 04:31:40 PM »
Dear Htc

What ever your doing keep doing it. Every time I sit at my computer and feel like flying some cartoon airplanes and feel like shooting at some red guys, your always there. I click your icon on my desktop and poof...wish granted

I know that others may want you to change what your doing, but whatever your doing seems to be right as your always ther when I click the icon......sadly there were other games where that is not the case. Folks click the icon and nothing....game has closed up shop and customers/gamers are left to find some other avenue.

So in conclusion, you do what you think is right,as what ever it is seems to be working pretty damn well

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #102 on: August 10, 2013, 05:56:57 PM »
I'll be pleasantly waiting for the day AH3 is released with brand new graphics, brand new engine and no longer catering to the 2004-PC crowd. Though that would mean they would have to update all the existing AH1 planes. Which is going to take at least 2 years based on the rate they update stuff. Oh wells, hopefully there will still be a decent amounts of players in 2-4 years.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2013, 07:32:43 PM »
Hence why we are at PS4 now and not still stuck with the PS1.. You gotta keep up with the tech to play the titles.

oddly, one of the only games I play on my PS3 is an old PS1 game.  because of gameplay/interface and physics.. it looks terrible but has been playable the way it is for 15+ years. (ten pin alley -- best bowling game on any platform IMO)


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Re: Is it possible to bring AH graphics engine up to par?
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2013, 08:24:11 AM »
I'll be pleasantly waiting for the day AH3 is released with brand new graphics, brand new engine and no longer catering to the 2004-PC crowd. Though that would mean they would have to update all the existing AH1 planes. Which is going to take at least 2 years based on the rate they update stuff. Oh wells, hopefully there will still be a decent amounts of players in 2-4 years.
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