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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #480 on: February 21, 2016, 06:04:40 PM »
I can think of several options that fill gaps better than another German jet*:




*One has already been added. Oh, and HT has it's hands kinda full right now on the beta.

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #481 on: February 21, 2016, 07:04:52 PM »
Nice chart, Arlo!

You can check off the Tu-2, however.


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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #482 on: February 22, 2016, 12:47:31 AM »
SB2C, P-63, and Kingfisher/Rufe/Rex for ports!   :furious
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #483 on: February 25, 2016, 03:12:43 PM »

P-63 should be added because people will fly it.
The whole usage argumant is so flawed its hardly worth going back over (arado, Ta-152). P-63 qualifes under the rule.
Aces High is a great test bed for how planes matched up and performed relative to each other in ways THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE WAR. P-51s didn't fight Corsairs. But I don;t here you guys screaming about wartime acuracy when it happens.
Yet it's fun to see how German planes match up against Japanese planes, and British against American, Etc...
The P-63 is a very interesting plane because it has the potential to be the best All American dog fighter of the war, something America wasn't interested in, in late 1944. It was interested in Long range escort fighter bombers. Th eP-63 no long matched the mission.
 
It's value in the game is: It would be fun to fly, would get more use than many hangar queens,  and would prove once again that the American air-corps brass were a bunch of knuckleheads.

Saxman and the other WWII history book snobs never take that into consideration. Instead they pound the table for hangar queen after hangar queen, because they were relevant in the war at some point in 1939. Al lof which is just an excuse to flex their trivia muscles on the internet.

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #484 on: February 25, 2016, 05:04:29 PM »
People would fly a Tigercat, too. They'd probably fly nothing but, if but for perks. Except for the Buffalo pilot that lives to shoot them down.

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So there is another consideration other than 'If you build another superbird they will fly it.'. What will an addition turn the arena into, initially or in the long run?

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #485 on: February 25, 2016, 08:08:04 PM »
P-63 should be added because people will fly it.
The whole usage argumant is so flawed its hardly worth going back over (arado, Ta-152). P-63 qualifes under the rule.
Aces High is a great test bed for how planes matched up and performed relative to each other in ways THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE WAR. P-51s didn't fight Corsairs. But I don;t here you guys screaming about wartime acuracy when it happens.
Yet it's fun to see how German planes match up against Japanese planes, and British against American, Etc...
The P-63 is a very interesting plane because it has the potential to be the best All American dog fighter of the war, something America wasn't interested in, in late 1944. It was interested in Long range escort fighter bombers. Th eP-63 no long matched the mission.
 
It's value in the game is: It would be fun to fly, would get more use than many hangar queens,  and would prove once again that the American air-corps brass were a bunch of knuckleheads.

Saxman and the other WWII history book snobs never take that into consideration. Instead they pound the table for hangar queen after hangar queen, because they were relevant in the war at some point in 1939. Al lof which is just an excuse to flex their trivia muscles on the internet.

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« Reply #486 on: February 25, 2016, 09:03:47 PM »
SB2C, P-63, and Kingfisher/Rufe/Rex for ports!   :furious

Uhhh, no.

Kingfisher/Rufe/Rex for ports!,  Yes. :D
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« Reply #487 on: February 25, 2016, 10:11:54 PM »
P-63 should be added because people will fly it.
The whole usage argumant is so flawed its hardly worth going back over (arado, Ta-152). P-63 qualifes under the rule.
Aces High is a great test bed for how planes matched up and performed relative to each other in ways THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE WAR. P-51s didn't fight Corsairs. But I don;t here you guys screaming about wartime acuracy when it happens.
Yet it's fun to see how German planes match up against Japanese planes, and British against American, Etc...
The P-63 is a very interesting plane because it has the potential to be the best All American dog fighter of the war, something America wasn't interested in, in late 1944. It was interested in Long range escort fighter bombers. Th eP-63 no long matched the mission.
 
It's value in the game is: It would be fun to fly, would get more use than many hangar queens,  and would prove once again that the American air-corps brass were a bunch of knuckleheads.

Saxman and the other WWII history book snobs never take that into consideration. Instead they pound the table for hangar queen after hangar queen, because they were relevant in the war at some point in 1939. Al lof which is just an excuse to flex their trivia muscles on the internet.

Vinkman  :salute


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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #488 on: February 25, 2016, 10:31:06 PM »
Why not just rally/petition for a Korean War arena if uber is better? Vietnam? Gulf War? Star Wars?  :D

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« Reply #489 on: February 26, 2016, 08:07:06 AM »
Why not just rally/petition for a Korean War arena if uber is better? Vietnam? Gulf War? Star Wars?  :D

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« Reply #490 on: February 26, 2016, 08:38:49 AM »
+1 Korean Arena  :aok

At one time I'd back that. With the current game population, I'd just like to see the update finished and the WWII one filled. (And every gap in the popular event scenarios filled, once that happens.)  :)

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« Reply #491 on: February 26, 2016, 08:50:23 AM »
At one time I'd back that. With the current game population, I'd just like to see the update finished and the WWII one filled. (And every gap in the popular event scenarios filled, once that happens.)  :)

I agree 100% with this...

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« Reply #492 on: February 26, 2016, 12:08:49 PM »
The P-63 saw combat, not just flew combat operations but actually engaged on combat in the close support role.  Because the P-63 did see combat and flew in squadron strength, it does deserve to be added to the game eventually but I don't think it should be a high priority as the P-63 does nothing to fill in the existing holes in the plane set.

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« Reply #493 on: February 26, 2016, 12:55:46 PM »
Ack Ack said it best and this post of his is where it should have ended.

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« Reply #494 on: February 26, 2016, 01:17:01 PM »
Ack Ack said it best and this post of his is where it should have ended.

Yes, thread-nanny.   :huh  ;)