Desktop computer

[SirNuke]

Yummy that micro atx case looks good!

I wonder if a high end videocard fits in there

[wpeters]

What would you upgrade first when you get this computer.

[gyrene81]

video card...

[wpeters]

So you would say the power supply is alright on this computer.

[edog1977]

Yummy that micro atx case looks good!

I wonder if a high end videocard fits in there

I looked at a few pictures of the X51 on Dell's website. It looks like the video card is mounted parallel to the mother board at the bottom of the case.  I can't imagine there will be very many options available to someone looking to upgrade one of those computers.

[SirNuke]

sorry I was talking about the case bizman linked, I have no idea how the alienware case looks

[gyrene81]

well, supposedly the x51 has/had an option for up to a gtx 670 so it is possible the power supply wouldn't need to be changed...can't find any real specs on the oem power supply.

[wpeters]

Ok... Thanks. What is wrong with vid card in it. I mean would it be good enough to last me for a little while before upgrading.

[gyrene81]

ya you could use it for a little while...just don't expect any stellar graphics from it. probably have to run 512 textures, no shadows, and some other adjustments...

[edog1977]

If what I'm reading is true the Dell X51 has an external power supply. That would make a power supply or video card upgrade virtually impossible wouldn't it?

Edit: Everything I've read about the X51 leads me to believe it's nothing more that a glorified laptop. It should be criminal to call that thing a gaming computer.

[wpeters]

This a computer that I came on for cell. Looks great and in awesome condition. I can get it for 279.99 Dollars. What do you think.
Gateway Intel i3-3240 3.4GHz Desktop PC | DX4870-UB2B




Product Specifications

Processor Type: Intel
Processor Model: i3-3240
Processor Speed: 3.4GHz
Processor Core: Dual-core
Cache: 3MB
System Memory (RAM): 6GB
RAM Expandable To: 16GB
Type of Memory (RAM): DDR3
Number of Memory Slots: 4
Memory Card Reader: Yes
Number of Hard Drives: 1
Hard Drive Capacity: 1TB
Hard Drive Interface: SATA/300
Hard Drive RPM: 7,200
Optical Drive Type: DVD+RW
Graphics: Intel HD
Video Memory: Not Available
Network Card: Integrated 10/100/1000Mbps
Wireless Networking: Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n
Available Expansion Slots: Not Available
USB Ports: 8
Control Devices: Keyboard, Mouse
Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit
System Version: 64-bit
Software Included: Not Available
ENERGY STAR Qualified: No
Dimensions: 15.8" x 7.1" x 14.9"
Product Weight: 23lbs
Product Number: DX4870-UB2B

[edog1977]

That doesn't look all that great. It only has on-board video. You'd need to buy a video card the if you wanted to play games on it. You'd probably have to buy a new power supply to run the new video card. There is an expansion card, probably a USB header, directly below the PCIe x16 slot. That would probably have to be removed for a video card to fit.

Another thing I noticed is it says 6GB of RAM. That's an odd number. I don't think the memory will be running in dual channel mode.

If it were me I'd pass on that one.

[Bizman]

Two things. One immediately if you want to play, the other in very near future to avoid damages in the rest of the rig:

• Graphics: Intel HD - The gameplay with such is par with a $300 laptop. A slideshow with garbled graphics. Before you buy, check that the motherboard has a pci-e 16x slot for a videocard!
• IF the pci-e slot exists, you'd first need a graphics controller. A Radeon HD 7770 is decently priced for $100, performs well and is relatively easy on the PSU.
• the second thing you'd need would be a reliable power supply to feed your new video card

[edit] edog, you're a fast typist! +1 to all what you said.[/edit]

[wpeters]

here is another that i could get for 495


s a Gateway DX4870 Desktop PC. Perfect for students, gamers or business users. The RAM has been upgraded to from 8GB to 12GB. Pair that with the Intel Core i5 CPU, the result is a lightning fast PC.

This PC was purchased new by another customer, then immediately returned. The packaging has been opened and the PC has some signs of handling and the box has some distress. But the PC is unused and in mint condition. Thus, I'm listing it as "new in open box".

It comes with Windows 7 restored to the factory original settings. Includes the keyboard, mouse and power cable.

ONLY ONE AVAILABLE! FREE SHIPPING! 60-DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!

 
General Spec

Brand
Gateway
Series
DX Series
Model
DX4870-UB318 (DT.GDDAA.012)
Type
Student/Home office
Usage
Consumer
Processor
Intel Core i5-3330 3.0GHz
Processor Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor
6MB L3 Cache
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333
Hard Drive
1TB SATA 5400RPM
Optical Drive 1
DVD+/-RW
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 2500
Ethernet
Gigabit Ethernet
Power Supply
300W
Operating System
Windows 8 64-Bit

Motherboard

Chipset
Intel B75

CPU

CPU Type
Intel Core i5
CPU Speed
3330(3.00GHz)
L3 Cache Per CPU
6MB
CPU Socket Type
LGA 1155
CPU Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Max Turbo Frequency 3.2 GHz

Graphics

GPU/VPU Type
Intel HD Graphics 2500
Graphics Interface
Integrated video

Memory

Memory Capacity
12GB DDR3
Memory Speed
DDR3 1333
Memory Slot (Total)
4
Maximum Memory Supported
16GB

Hard Drive

HDD Capacity
1TB
HDD Interface
SATA
HDD RPM
5400rpm

Optical Drive

Optical Drive Type
DVD±RW

Communications

LAN Speed
10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN
802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN

Back Panel Ports

Video Ports
1 VGA, 1 HDMI
Rear USB
Total
6 x USB 2.0
2 x USB 3.0
RJ45
1 port

Expansion

PCI Slots (Available/Total)
PCI Express x1 Slots: 3
PCI Express x16 Slots: 1

[edog1977]

Again, that one has integrated graphics. Need to buy video card and possibly power supply. 12GB of RAM isn't running in dual channel mode. The fact that they added RAM makes me think that it wasn't performing very well and the person thought more RAM would help.

I would save your $495. Save up another couple of hundred dollars and build yourself something halfway decent.