Warthunder gets best simulation award......

[dhyran]

Why did you quit the FM team in war thunder dhyran?

I can't tell details i am still under Dev NDA, i build around 70 FMs overall and it was great

[LCADolby]

I can't tell details i am still under Dev NDA, i build around 70 FMs overall and it was great

if you were responsible for the 109F4 and E4 I am required to slap you, should we meet in person 

[GScholz]

Is there something wrong with the 109F-4??!?!    Please say it ain't true!

[LCADolby]

They are no where near AH flight model. Twice as pretty half as much fun

[GScholz]

Could you be more specific?

[LCADolby]

WT 109E and F feel slow dimwitted and well, it's difficult to explain. Fly them in both games and you'll understand.

[GScholz]

The 109F is my main ride in AH... If they F'ed it up in WT I'll never forgive them.

[LCADolby]

It doesn't stall the same, infact it has the terrible generic IL2 stalls all of their FMs have and the rudder authority is less; the controls are mushy.

[Arlo]

The 109F is my main ride in AH... If they F'ed it up in WT I'll never forgive them.

One too many mistresses. Dump the one that's less faithful (irony). 

[pervert]

Could you be more specific?

Probably what happened is the FM was comprised of a lot of ancedotal pilots accounts to get that elusive 'feel' right, I heard there are ways around it using pilot's stories, wasn't it you who said that?

[Skuzzy]

To be fair.  Even using data can be a problem.  For instance, if there is no standard test data available for a plane, one must resort to the use of other sources to fill in the blanks so a proper flight model can be derived.

The problem with is the "cherry picking" which can occur.  Take 20 books about one plane and many people will take the best parameter from each book and claim that is what should be used to model flight for a plane.

Of course, when you run the numbers, they do not come out right due to the data conflicting with each other as each book usually has done a decent job with making sure their numbers do compliment each other.

Without manufacturing test data, you can only hope to pick the data set you hope is correct.  Fortunately, there is pretty good data for most planes that flew in World War II.  None of that data is pilot anecdote, by the way.

[GScholz]

Probably what happened...

 

[-aper-]

Without manufacturing test data, you can only hope to pick the data set you hope is correct.  Fortunately, there is pretty good data for most planes that flew in World War II.  None of that data is pilot anecdote, by the way.

Could you tell what sort of data (sources) were used while modeling (for example) diving abilities for Yak-7b or La-7 . (Acceleration in dive, loads on controls at high speeds, critical speed, etc)

[guncrasher]

Could you tell what sort of data (sources) were used while modeling (for example) diving abilities for Yak-7b or La-7 . (Acceleration in dive, loads on controls at high speeds, critical speed, etc)

that would just create more arguments about "you should have used this" and that is wrong because this other data is more reliable.....



semp

[Citabria]

I found that by simply diving my bf109 at full throttle in a very shallow dive of only a few degrees that any La5 or La7 trying to follow would simply fall apart in mid air and crash...

said no German ww2 pilot ever.

at least AH's flight models are not retarded.