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Offline VonMessa

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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2013, 11:30:24 AM »
Here's a video of the type of boat we are looking at.  We won't be looking for one with a tower.  All of that storage you can change from fishing poles to waterskis and bait wells and fish holding tanks....lots of ice.  lol  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJRbSK5rkQ&list=PL90ABE5B3A18AE604

Granted it is not a ski boat but it can be done for sure with two 300s.

It has everything else we want, in spades.

I totally "get" why people like to sail but you really have to love it to buy a sailboat.  We just want to get from point A to point B quickly and safely.  The beauty of this boat is how easy it is to maintain and keep clean.  It was built to be hosed off to clean off fish guts and blood.  This will make wine and beer spills a breeze.  hehe

As to the comments on Boston Whalers....if I wasn't so keen on the Cat design I'd probably be looking at one.  Quite possibly the best salt water boat there is and it is certainly reflected in their price.  




Assuming a pair of 300 hp outboards running 3/4 throttle to full throttle, that is about 16 gallons/hour per engine, depending on prop, weight in boat, conditions of the water, currents, tides, etc.

The boat you posted holds 260 gallons of fuel.

~ $7.00/gallon on the water (price was from last weekend in Earleville, MD) Georgetown Yacht Basin, area.

About a $1500 top off average if you don't run the tanks dry every time.

So, about every 10-12 hours, you are feeding the beast to the tune of $1500

I hope you catch lots of fish  :D

I'll keep my sails, I was out for 5 hours this weekend.  It didn't cost me a dime  AND we caught some fish  :devil

In all seriousness, best of luck to ya.  :aok
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2013, 11:31:53 AM »
@ RngFndr LOL  So he has no vested interest in saying that...

I agree with what MY mechanic says:  The less holes needed in a boat the better.
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2013, 11:37:10 AM »


Assuming a pair of 300 hp outboards running 3/4 throttle to full throttle, that is about 16 gallons/hour per engine, depending on prop, weight in boat, conditions of the water, currents, tides, etc.

The boat you posted holds 260 gallons of fuel.

~ $7.00/gallon on the water (price was from last weekend in Earleville, MD) Georgetown Yacht Basin, area.

About a $1500 top off average if you don't run the tanks dry every time.

So, about every 10-12 hours, you are feeding the beast to the tune of $1500

I hope you catch lots of fish  :D

I'll keep my sails, I was out for 5 hours this weekend.  It didn't cost me a dime  AND we caught some fish  :devil

In all seriousness, best of luck to ya.  :aok

It's an expensive toy, no doubt.

If I couldn't afford it I wouldn't buy one.  It is that simple.

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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2013, 11:53:54 AM »
It's an expensive toy, no doubt.

If I couldn't afford it I wouldn't buy one.  It is that simple.




Gasoline is an expensve habit  :D
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2013, 12:05:46 PM »
Do you drive a car or is it wind powered?  ;)
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2013, 12:27:55 PM »
Do you drive a car or is it wind powered?  ;)

Unless you live in Venice, Italy, I doubt driving a boat to work becomes a necessity.  :D

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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2013, 12:31:47 PM »
Unless you live in Venice, Italy, I doubt driving a boat to work becomes a necessity.  :D

True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all.  :devil
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2013, 12:36:23 PM »
True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all.  :devil

Actually, some people can't afford recreational vehicles anymore (or use them sparingly) because of the cost of gasoline. No,really. It's true.
The cost of gasoline can make frivolous use of it diminish. Even people with the means are becoming more fuel miserly. I've seen it and I
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2013, 12:39:16 PM »
I love sailing.  I've sailed for 45 years now.  I've owned plenty of powerboats too but it just isn't as much fun for me.  Powerboats are easier, yes, but after roaring around in one, unless you actually have a destination, some place your are trying to get to for a particular reason, it just gets old for me.  Sailing on the other hand certainly allows me to get to a destination if I want to also.  But just sailing around never gets old for me.  Maybe it is because you have to work the boat to make it go, not just turn the key and push the throttle(s) forward.  You have to constantly watch the wind, your heading off the wind, the position of the boom and the sails and keep her trimmed.  Currently I live in Phoenix but my brother and I share a 60' sailboat that is docked at the Southwestern Yacht club in San Diego.  Some day I want to retire and live on that boat and at that time I will buy my brother out.  He and I get along really well and have never had any issues with co-ownership.  We split everything right down the middle, boat payments, maintenance, dock fees and the minute amount of fuel we do burn that we use to take the boat in and out of the harbor.  He lives in San Diego, LaJolla actually, he's a Captain with Northwest Airlines), Sailing along with only the sound of the wind in your sales, the splash of the water as you cleave the way through the water, pretty girls, sunshine and wind, that's all I need.  Actually just the wind, the other two, meh.

We got this boat quite awhile ago when my father passed away.  Everything else he had, 2 planes, motorcycles, cars, and real estate we sold off and the money went into a family trust for my brother, my 2 sisters and myself to share when we retire.  We also purchased the boat (financed), and that money went into the family trust also.  My father was going to sail the world on that boat but passed away just before he retired so he never got that chance.  He did get to sail it alot with us and that is also a big part of the appeal I am sure.

My brother and I do regret selling off his Decathalon and his hanger he owned at Montgomery field in San Diego.  The other plane was a Mooney.

The one powerboat that I really loved and miss was a '70's 16 foot Donzi with a 351 Holman-Moody.  That thing was really fun to roar around in but pretty useless otherwise.
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2013, 12:44:08 PM »
True, but I would expect that he would not then use his car for anything recreational, or fly anywhere....because gas is an addiction and all.  :devil

Sadly, I have actually not used my vehicle for recreation in a while, nor have I flown.  I will be towing the boat for a race in Norfolk, this weekend.  almost 400 miles, one way.

Glad that only the Jeep needs gas  :D
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2013, 12:59:25 PM »
OK OK

I am not buying a sailboat.

Full stop.

I know plenty of people who do.

In fact the last time I was on one was last summer.  I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat.  I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off.  Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.

I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails.  Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 01:06:24 PM »
OK OK

I am not buying a sailboat.

Full stop.

I know plenty of people who do.

In fact the last time I was on one was last summer.  I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat.  I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off.  Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.

I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails.  Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.

I have encountered this phenomenon, before.  :lol

As far as relaxing goes, that is what crew is for, especially when the crew is a pair of bikini-clad women.  :D
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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 04:49:35 PM »
I had 5 boats thru the years. Nothing fancy, only fishing boats, but big enough to have spent a fortune on not only them but all the fishing gear. I'd be retired right now had I saved the money instead of spending it on the boats and gear, the trips, the gas, the tow vehicle....ect

And you know what? I dont regret one thing about it. I'd do it again in a heart beat. Life is short and a nice boat and time on the water with friends and family are one of the pay offs. I had a partner who was as close as a brother to me. He loved fishing as much as I and we spent many thousands of hours together fishing all over the country for many years. God called him home at 56 years of age but if not for boats and fishing I'd have far fewer memories of him. So I say get that boat and squeeze every bit of good times out of life with your family and friends as you can.

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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2013, 05:35:28 PM »
OK OK

I am not buying a sailboat.

Full stop.

I know plenty of people who do.

In fact the last time I was on one was last summer.  I was invited out by someone with a 50' boat.  I remember thinking as we got close to the dock on the way back that I could probably swim faster than the boat was going and actually considered putting all the stuff I brought into a plastic bag and trying it, that is how desperate I was to get off.  Nothing to do with sailing in that case though to be fair, it was the company.

I want to relax and enjoy the damn thing, not work my bellybutton off hauling lines and cleaning and packing sails.  Glad you guys enjoy it, I don't.


  I totally understand!  It's the reason I never mentioned a blowboat after my first post,they aren't for you.


    I will repeat myself though,get the biggest and best built boat you can afford! Nothing is worse than looking over and say Dang I wish I'd have gotten one of those!

   Even moreso when you drop a couple of K to begin with!!!  You might forego the odd option as somethings are just rediculess but you cant get enough quality,fit and finish can mean a lot on boats,whether it's a blowboat or motorboat.... Ya like like to motorboat too but I'd rather sail if I'm on the water..... :devil


   Be sure to post pix when you get it,must have bikini clad women in it though!


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Re: Let's talk boats
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2013, 07:46:21 PM »
I own a boat...Bass fishing Boat....

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