Clarifications about the Spitfire Mk IX and XVI

[Guppy35]

Dan,

  Do you have any information on the "basta" a special IX that ran on 150 fuel?

    IIRC they had a very short engine overhaul time but I don't recall more than that.




   

As Karnak stated, many were using that fuel in particular in the summer of 44 chasing V-1s

[Guppy35]

By late 44 they were mostly flying from bases on the continent.  Not much need for more bomber escorts by that time though.

That was an old joke from Airwarrior Karnak

We had a scenario where the design limited the Spits to 75 fuel.  The Airwarrior birds had no drop tanks so it went a long way to neutering the Spits in that Scenario.  It was the first time I had a group in a Scenario and it was tough knowing you could cross the coast and basically have to return home due to fuel.  I was younger and less understanding then and pitched a bit of a fit about it

[Karnak]

As Karnak stated, many were using that fuel in particular in the summer of 44 chasing V-1s

This is Mossie centric, but I imagine the Spits worked the same.  The Mossie's that were modified to take 150 octane for anti-Diver patrols retained that modification and kept using 150 octane once they were moved to other tasks.

[Tank-Ace]

I know it's not at all historical, but I'd love to see a K4 modeled on "what it" usage of 150 octane fuel.

[GScholz]

Some G-10/K-4 units evidently did fly on C3 fuel, but information is very limited. Mostly just photographs of 109s with C3 stickers on them. C3 would increase power to ~2,000 hp.

[MiloMorai]

I know it's not at all historical, but I'd love to see a K4 modeled on "what it" usage of 150 octane fuel.

Do you mean the the ones using 1.98ata and C3 fuel? The use of only C3 fuel only gave ~1800hp.

[Scherf]

I've come to this thread late - what is Franz's issue, and which marks does he say did not see combat?

 

[Karnak]

I've come to this thread late - what is Franz's issue, and which marks does he say did not see combat?

 

He claims to believe that only 12 Mk XVI's saw combat.  I don't think he actually believes this, I think the claim fits his fancy as it matches well with his detestation of anything British.

[Scherf]

Ah.

That's a fairly spectacular claim.

[Tank-Ace]

C3 was 100 octane, no?

[SirNuke]

C3 was 100 octane, no?

 I think its a bit more complex than that, as petrol chemistry is

[Ack-Ack]

I've come to this thread late - what is Franz's issue

He's Schlowy, that's his issue.

ack-ack

[Fox]

The attached link has some interesting information about the 150 octane fuel.

 http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/150grade/150-grade-fuel.html

[bozon]

I've come to this thread late - what is Franz's issue,

He played with a screwdriver in the power socket and he has been like this since.

[morfiend]

As Karnak stated, many were using that fuel in particular in the summer of 44 chasing V-1s

  It was a long tima ago I read about the "Basta" but I seem to recall it was out of Italy and they not only ran 150 fuel but push the MAP somewhat past what it was rated for and the result was something like 10 hours or less and the manifolds would burn out.

  I was wondering if you had any more imformation or maybe a good book to read about it,ya I don't just read the german stuff!!!!