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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2013, 09:17:56 PM »
I agree with Ded, ammo dumping makes not much difference, I like to keep my ammo because if I win I will have to keep fighting till I run out of fuel. Anyone who feels the need to use F3 mode or to gain extra E and dive in before icon range is only cheating themself.

No one who duels regularly really cares if they win or lose as long as they gave a good showing of themself and had a good fight.

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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2013, 09:35:05 PM »
No one who duels regularly really cares if they win or lose as long as they gave a good showing of themself and had a good fight.


Nicely stated.

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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2013, 10:17:27 PM »
I do none of those Junky.  Sometimes I start talking on vox and go auto limb and end up at 4k but try to get back down throttle off well in advance of the merge.

The other night Ded and I were going at it and I repeatedly got to talking to him vox and always ended up with a bit more alt than he did and I still died.

I was warned years ago by Dodger about these very things so naturally I could tell it wasn't acceptable.  Crafty, but cheating.

EDIT:  gramps said we do it wrong anyway.  Aerial gunnery (40's ACM sometimes term) merges began canopy to canopy in a knife edge pass.  This eliminated the advantages.  He was an instructor pilot at Luke Field, AZ 42-43.  I can't imagine he'd make that up but Bald Eagles bracket would certainly be interesting if that were the merge rule.  

And Surfinn decided to vulch bases two Canyon fights ago...he got pwnt with several alt advantages, lmao
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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2013, 10:35:18 PM »
DA is for the F3 mode heroes.
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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2013, 12:14:00 AM »
You worry about the wrong things. Ammo load wont make a difference and a few extra mph you can deal with. Its the F3 mode that sucks assuming it is still on in the DA. Another future no one asked for but it was important to add lol

It does make a difference if the opponents are around the same skill level, anyone who has performed turn radius testing will tell you weight affects the turn performance, I think dumping all your BBs or whatever is really bad form, the most I would accept is testing which guns that are mapped, but not emptying mgs.


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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2013, 12:19:27 AM »
A few years ago someone challenged me to the DA and after beating him a few times in various planes, I let him pick the next planes for our last fight.  He picked Dr.Is, so I upped one and proceed to fly off to merge with the other guy and he comes screaming at me in a P-38L, trying to HO me and collided with me instead.

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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2013, 12:59:24 AM »
It does make a difference if the opponents are around the same skill level, anyone who has performed turn radius testing will tell you weight affects the turn performance, I think dumping all your BBs or whatever is really bad form, the most I would accept is testing which guns that are mapped, but not emptying mgs.


It gave him enough E advantage to pretty much BnZ which was when I started having my suspicions.....now maybe the ammo dumping didn't effect it AS MUCH as the extra alt but it sure did seem like I had 100% fuel to his 25%.....
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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2013, 01:08:38 AM »
Midwife by any chance?

kingcobradude or something like that.  Midway was another funny one, had him calling me a cheat because I shot his fuel tank which caused him to run out of fuel mid-fight and he had no clue he was leaking fuel.


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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2013, 01:09:52 AM »
It gave him enough E advantage to pretty much BnZ which was when I started having my suspicions.....now maybe the ammo dumping didn't effect it AS MUCH as the extra alt but it sure did seem like I had 100% fuel to his 25%.....

His ammo load was probably not even a factor, but any energy advantage one can get over the other guy will be a deciding factor in the fight.

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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2013, 04:40:34 AM »
Challenge them to a duel but in the MA. Pick two fields with no action at them (fairly easy to find at any time of day) and put your ego and score at risk!  :D

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2013, 06:39:47 AM »
Challenge them to a duel but in the MA. Pick two fields with no action at them (fairly easy to find at any time of day) and put your ego and score at risk!  :D

If you can do it in the MA, you can do it better in the DA.  No chance of interruption or distraction.  F3 sucks but can be outflown
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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2013, 07:12:54 AM »
If you can do it in the MA, you can do it better in the DA.  No chance of interruption or distraction.  F3 sucks but can be outflown

The point I was making was to get them to put their precious MA ranking at risk as well as their ego.  ;)

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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2013, 07:44:45 AM »
The point I was making was to get them to put their precious MA ranking at risk as well as their ego.  ;)

Agree, but the resulting dar bar tends to attract others who may interfere with the "duel" even if they are warned off.   But I guess that's part of the ranking at risk theory you are proposing so  :aok




On a side note....I wish HTC would eliminate F3 from DA.  Not sure what purpose it serves or was intended to serve.  *shrug*
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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2013, 07:48:46 AM »
Challenge them to a duel but in the MA. Pick two fields with no action at them (fairly easy to find at any time of day) and put your ego and score at risk!  :D
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Re: Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2013, 08:00:16 AM »
pretty boys always gotta Win :eek:.


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 :lol  But I didn't!  OldNo7 won cleanly...tho I think I gave a decent account of myself.   I always try to give a decent fight and come away from the match with something new to think about....I rarely care about who wins or not.



P.S. I'm glad you still think I'm pretty, semp.   ;)

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