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Offline Sunka

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Hey Trainers.
« on: November 08, 2013, 11:43:29 AM »
Recently one of our fine trainers had a posting on available trainers. The responce seems very low of trainers that actually pay attention to training forms or ever hang out in TA.
We often have many people looking for help maybe you guys should hire a few more good men.
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« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 11:45:32 AM by Sunka »
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 12:17:07 PM »
I am no way a Trainer. However if any trainers would like a bait plane shoot me a message with the day and time and I will help in any way I can. I received a TON of help when I was starting and would gladly give it in return too anyone.  :salute

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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 12:34:55 PM »
Recently one of our fine trainers had a posting on available trainers. The responce seems very low of trainers that actually pay attention to training forms or ever hang out in TA.
We often have many people looking for help maybe you guys should hire a few more good men.
 :salute

what you didn't see were the Trainers who are booked up,,, we still work mostly thru PM's,, my schedule is open,, but many trainers are full up, or get there students thru other means,, I'd love to get more students for GV training tho,, so I posted there,
 my advice is, if you want a certain Trainer, PM him, I bet He will answer,, if you don't know who or what you want or need, post it in the training forum and someone will see it, and someone will answer it!! :salute
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 12:44:47 PM »
what you didn't see were the Trainers who are booked up,,, we still work mostly thru PM's,, my schedule is open,, but many trainers are full up, or get there students thru other means,, I'd love to get more students for GV training tho,, so I posted there,
 my advice is, if you want a certain Trainer, PM him, I bet He will answer,, if you don't know who or what you want or need, post it in the training forum and someone will see it, and someone will answer it!! :salute
O i know many trainers keep busy,but TA being more empty (of trainers) and a lack of responses on available trainers post is still valid.
Not trying to stick my nose in where it don't belong ,was just an observation.
On another note,i do some gv'ing now and then and i bet i could sure use some advice. :salute
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 12:48:04 PM »
Just tell me when and we can work on whatever you would like
Just PM me a date and time you like
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 01:45:34 PM »
Recently one of our fine trainers had a posting on available trainers. The responce seems very low of trainers that actually pay attention to training forms or ever hang out in TA.
We often have many people looking for help maybe you guys should hire a few more good men.
 :salute


That posting was misleading since it implied that all available trainers were listed. It was a posting of availability of a few trainers. Sorry for the confusion.

All players going to the TA see a message that they can post in Help and Training to request a trainer. All requests have been answered.

Any player can help another player in the TA. You don't need to be a trainer, just stick to what you know and you'll likely be helpful.

« Last Edit: November 21, 2013, 01:47:49 PM by FLS »

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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 01:49:34 PM »
That posting was misleading since it implied that all available trainers were listed. It was a posting of availability of a few trainers. Sorry for the confusion.

New players going to the TA see a message that they can post in Help and Training to request a trainer. All requests have been answered.

Any player can help another in the TA. You don't need to be a trainer, just stick to what you know and you'll likely be helpful.


Right on FLS i might have a scued view of who is around. Only you guys know how many of you are there and busy.
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 05:43:53 AM »
I signed up some years ago, got zero response to the one request I floated and I've never seen a "trainer" in the TA. Not once. Now I'm by no means a regular. I used to go there to answer questions that came up in game since the dynamics seem closer to the MA than at the DA. It's not a new issue. There's probably only a few guys anyhow and since they seem to be giving time away it makes sense that they would be hard to find. You'll find some guys in the MA that seem pretty generous with info.

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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 03:41:42 PM »
Where did you post your request? We generally respond to every request we see.

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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 10:48:59 AM »
 :aok to the idea of more trainers, if there are people out there that are willing to be "Official" Trainers then why not make them so... Especially if you guys are all booked up.

 What about having a "biweekly" training seminar held in the TA or something covering different topics lead by different members of the Training Corps. that have more experience or expertise to offer in some of the different aspects of the game. Develop some sort of lesson plan covering some topics that might help some newer members. It doesn't have to be real basic stuff, but something to encourage the members that are within their first 3 months. You could make a post in all arenas about the event the day of, similar to how its done prior to the start of the FSO or SEC stating something like "In 15 minutes the start of today's training covering Basic Air Combat Maneuvers begins in the Training Arena". Just a thought I had while talking to a friend about it the other day.

 Maybe this has been tried before and was not effective, I don't know I know ive not seen anything in the past year (minus a small few month hiatus away from the game). When I first came back to the game after 10 years away I know that was something I had looked for was if there was some sort of set "training day" or a generic time that trainers would be on. I didn't at the time even really know about the forum being here and posting in it asking for help. Yes some of the stuff on the training page did help, but there is SO much information there I think some people get overwhelmed by it and just figure "Ehh ill figure it out on my own" and they instead go straight to the game being left at the mercy of people in the game to take the time to teach them things.

Is there anyway to develop some sort of program that would put people in the TA at set times of the day during the week. Im not saying full time 8 hrs a day 5 days a week cause I get that that's a little to much  :O. Even if its something like 2 hrs a day 6 days a week split by a large number of "Trainers" at different times to have someone available to people that play in all the different time zones say someone mid-morning and mid-evening, so 2 people a day twice a day. Or even start off small with the idea maybe a Wednesday and a Saturday twice a day, see if anyone takes advantage of it. Make a arena announcement slide out off the clipboard during those times that give the name of who is available at those times. It could even be something where that trainer that is scheduled for that time could be in the MA but have people aware that he is there and tell them on the announcement how to contact them if they want training i.e. "If you would like training SoandSo is available from 10am EST till 12pm EST contact them by personal message ".p SoandSo[space] type message here...".

Reach out to our community and how many people would be interested in participating in such a program and helping it along.

Just a thought I had while reading this topic and some others on the side of training while I was talking to a good buddy of mine brainstorming how to make this game even better and trying to retain the new people that we do get.

 :salute to the Trainers that are out there though and that have helped me before. You guys do a great job of breaking down the game and trying to make the experience good for all those you do help.
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 02:23:00 PM »
Just tell me when and we can work on whatever you would like
Just PM me a date and time you like

I would be up for some gv training on how to effetively hide your gv.
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 04:39:39 PM »
I would be up for some gv training on how to effetively hide your gv.

  let me know when you want to go to the TA and I'll see what I can do!   just PM ME  a time you like!
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 04:43:48 PM »
That posting was misleading since it implied that all available trainers were listed. It was a posting of availability of a few trainers. Sorry for the confusion.



Yes, some trainers decided not to post, which lead to the thread becoming misleading. The thread itself was not misleading. If all trainers had cooperated it would have been very accurate.

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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 01:58:30 PM »
:aok to the idea of more trainers, if there are people out there that are willing to be "Official" Trainers then why not make them so... Especially if you guys are all booked up.

 What about having a "biweekly" training seminar held in the TA or something covering different topics lead by different members of the Training Corps. that have more experience or expertise to offer in some of the different aspects of the game. Develop some sort of lesson plan covering some topics that might help some newer members. It doesn't have to be real basic stuff, but something to encourage the members that are within their first 3 months. You could make a post in all arenas about the event the day of, similar to how its done prior to the start of the FSO or SEC stating something like "In 15 minutes the start of today's training covering Basic Air Combat Maneuvers begins in the Training Arena". Just a thought I had while talking to a friend about it the other day.

 Maybe this has been tried before and was not effective, I don't know I know ive not seen anything in the past year (minus a small few month hiatus away from the game). When I first came back to the game after 10 years away I know that was something I had looked for was if there was some sort of set "training day" or a generic time that trainers would be on. I didn't at the time even really know about the forum being here and posting in it asking for help. Yes some of the stuff on the training page did help, but there is SO much information there I think some people get overwhelmed by it and just figure "Ehh ill figure it out on my own" and they instead go straight to the game being left at the mercy of people in the game to take the time to teach them things.

Is there anyway to develop some sort of program that would put people in the TA at set times of the day during the week. Im not saying full time 8 hrs a day 5 days a week cause I get that that's a little to much  :O. Even if its something like 2 hrs a day 6 days a week split by a large number of "Trainers" at different times to have someone available to people that play in all the different time zones say someone mid-morning and mid-evening, so 2 people a day twice a day. Or even start off small with the idea maybe a Wednesday and a Saturday twice a day, see if anyone takes advantage of it. Make a arena announcement slide out off the clipboard during those times that give the name of who is available at those times. It could even be something where that trainer that is scheduled for that time could be in the MA but have people aware that he is there and tell them on the announcement how to contact them if they want training i.e. "If you would like training SoandSo is available from 10am EST till 12pm EST contact them by personal message ".p SoandSo[space] type message here...".

Reach out to our community and how many people would be interested in participating in such a program and helping it along.

Just a thought I had while reading this topic and some others on the side of training while I was talking to a good buddy of mine brainstorming how to make this game even better and trying to retain the new people that we do get.

 :salute to the Trainers that are out there though and that have helped me before. You guys do a great job of breaking down the game and trying to make the experience good for all those you do help.

Great post.... AFE!  I can say most of your ideas I have longed for ever since I left AW for AH back some 13+ years ago..
Even when i served as Head Trainer here, I could not get this accomplished... I tryed and have suggested for years that
we have informal training sessions weekly, similar to the way we did when I played AW...
Need I guess, to see the community ask for this or wish for this collectively....
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Re: Hey Trainers.
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2013, 02:47:29 PM »
Anyone is welcome to run weekly training sessions. You can start any time you like TC.  :aok