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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2013, 02:57:19 AM »
A-20 isn't nor every was a 'heavy fighter'. 

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2013, 04:13:23 AM »
Most twin-engined bombers are able to turn pretty tight circles when loaded very light. Some bombers were used in the daylight heavy-fighter role, like the Ju 88, but they were never meant to go up against fighters, but bombers and maritime patrol planes. The A-20G is pretty nimble, but like the Ju 88 and other bombers it suffers from very poor roll rate, so it always gives away its intentions long before it actually starts using that turn rate/circle.
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2013, 06:42:51 AM »
I'm also HIGHLY suspicious of the A-20's durability, given that steel is steel, and its not a great deal heavier than a 110 or a P-38, and its not much bigger.

The big weakness in a 38 is the booms if you give the bad guy a clear shot. 

A20s, take quite a bit of 50 caliber hits before they go down I have found when using an all 50s plane but go down about the same as any other plane with a bit of canon.  My take on it anyway.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2013, 07:33:09 AM »
I have no problems with A20s without extra gunner on board due to the fact I fly fast in battle. Its the extra gunner, if he is good  that gives that plane  the edge
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2013, 09:25:17 AM »
A20s are yummy. They go well with fava beans and a good chianti.  :D
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #80 on: November 15, 2013, 04:56:47 PM »

I'd say the Tempest.   4x20mms and 2 1,000lb bombs give it significant air-to-ground punch.   Unlike the P-40D, this aircraft is an uber-fighter, too.  Yes, the P-40 carries a bit more ordnance.   It doesn't have the four 20s, though.  Drop your bombs and the Tempest is the most lethal prop aircraft in the game.  Honorable mention goes to the F4U-4.   Two 1,000lb bombs and weight rockets. It, too, is an awesome fighter but it lacks the 20s.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #81 on: November 15, 2013, 05:01:31 PM »
I'd say the Tempest.   4x20mms and 2 1,000lb bombs give it significant air-to-ground punch.   Unlike the P-40D, this aircraft is an uber-fighter, too.  Yes, the P-40 carries a bit more ordnance.   It doesn't have the four 20s, though.  Drop your bombs and the Tempest is the most lethal prop aircraft in the game.  Honorable mention goes to the F4U-4.   Two 1,000lb bombs and weight rockets. It, too, is an awesome fighter but it lacks the 20s.

OK, WTH is a P-40D?  Also, how  many times have you seen a Tempest doing JABO duty?

I'm sure it happens, but I certainly haven't witnessed it.
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #82 on: November 15, 2013, 05:07:45 PM »
OK, WTH is a P-40D? 

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #83 on: November 15, 2013, 07:07:53 PM »
This article shows JABO fit-outs for later prop Hawker heavy fighters,
& although specific to Fury/Sea-Fury,
the same armament options also applied to the Tempest..

www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o rg/Fury/Sea_Fury_Flight.pdf
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2013, 08:39:15 PM »
I'd say the Tempest.   4x20mms and 2 1,000lb bombs give it significant air-to-ground punch.   Unlike the P-40D, this aircraft is an uber-fighter, too.  Yes, the P-40 carries a bit more ordnance.   It doesn't have the four 20s, though.  Drop your bombs and the Tempest is the most lethal prop aircraft in the game.  Honorable mention goes to the F4U-4.   Two 1,000lb bombs and weight rockets. It, too, is an awesome fighter but it lacks the 20s.

Who the heck uses Tempests as fighter bombers?
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2013, 08:55:27 PM »
Who the heck uses Tempests as fighter bombers?
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #86 on: November 15, 2013, 10:10:59 PM »
Somebody with lots of perks?

LOTS of perks. Especially since NOTHING is all that survivable in JABO mode. Unless you're gonna drop and go, anyway, in which case the strafing ability of the Tempest is irrelevant.
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2013, 08:57:32 AM »
I used a tempest for Jabo earlier this week.   The question wasn't "What is the best non-perk heavy fighter?", it was "What is the best heavy fighter?".   It might be fun to run a tempest jabo mission...

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2013, 11:58:31 AM »
Hands down in real use the P47 wins hands down.  It was proven during WWII.  Others may compete but the Jug did the job best.

In game....here....it's a popularity contest.  With  a loss to sorties rate of .07 the Jug was the most dependable and the most deadly to the enemy.

Nuff said.  Hell, the squadron leader of the 61stFS /56thFG flew one into a telegraph pole on a strafing run at Lille and flew home with

part of the telegraph pole imbedded in the aircraft.  That says it all.  51s and 38s were pretty but fragile.  47s rugged and dependable

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2013, 12:39:50 PM »
LOTS of perks. Especially since NOTHING is all that survivable in JABO mode. Unless you're gonna drop and go, anyway, in which case the strafing ability of the Tempest is irrelevant.
What will I spend my 6000+ perks on? On my last perked sortie I used a 262 to strafe the radar and deack a field.
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