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Offline Arlo

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Re: Fighting
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2014, 03:03:02 PM »
Sorry Shifty, but that wasn't the intent or the point.

Bear, amigo. I thought the op was Changeup. He's a history of doing the 'look-at-me' dance.

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Re: Fighting
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2014, 03:09:51 PM »
Why would I think I'm the only one who's motivated to play the game the way I do?  I don't have to look past this thread to see that's not the case... lol.

I do actually fly the way I suggest, and if someone asks me why I fly that way, I can tell them.  You on the other hand, don't fly that way and can't even give a straight answer as to why you prefer to not fight in a WWII online combat game.  



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Re: Fighting
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2014, 03:10:58 PM »
Bear, amigo. I thought the op was Changeup. He's a history of doing the 'look-at-me' dance.

He was. It was really an extension of a post in our forum, so I know how it was intended. Interpret it how you will.

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Re: Fighting
« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2014, 03:35:43 PM »
I have spoken via PM and via telephone lately to a number of folks that play the game.   Almost all of these folks won't skip a fight no matter the planes involved or the advantage or disadvantage.  They're typically categorized as old timers I guess. Yes, there are plenty of newer folks that will fight, no doubt.  Plenty of GV fights...Lordy Lordy those guys get it on, seriously.  But regarding the air, we wanted to ask the community.

Here is our multiple choice question for the community:

Why don't more players stay in an aerial fight during gameplay in any aerial situation?

A.  Fighting to the death isn't as fun as landing kills of any kind

B.  They don't really have the personal time to learn enough ACM to get themselves out of pickles of any size but still love flying and competing

C.  Too much ego-bashing and bullying on 200 the times they DID stay and fight but lost and then had to hear about it for an hour

D.  Love to have a great score.  This is a reason BTW and it really shouldn't be harassed.  If it wasn't, there wouldn't be scoring in the first place

E.  This is how they learned the game from the start.  Hittum and forget um

There are other reasons obviously but these came up so I thought I'd ask you.   In an attempt and changing some gameplay and maybe even some attitudes about the fight to help keep people we already have and to keep new folks interested in getting better.

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A.  I think that should be changed. Perhaps, HTC could promote a more Aggressive gameplAy style by changing the score system.  InsteAd of how many lands and kills being part of the equation in the score rank; i think they should still be shown on your individual score but not calculated into the score/rank.   I think what should be graded for the score and rank is (for fighter) hit %, most favorite enemy part hit ( example: aileron/pilot),
For attack: bombing hit % and damage done.

Been a few months since i even looked at my score. So i dont recall all the components that are graded inthe score rank. But i think that the kills and landings should be shown in the game, butnot. Calculated into ghe overall score/rank to promote moreaggressive gameplay and fights.

Just my opinion though <S>

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Re: Fighting
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2014, 03:39:02 PM »
A.  I think that should be changed. Perhaps, HTC could promote a more Aggressive gameplAy style by changing the score system.  InsteAd of how many lands and kills being part of the equation in the score rank; i think they should still be shown on your individual score but not calculated into the score/rank.   I think what should be graded for the score and rank is (for fighter) hit %, most favorite enemy part hit ( example: aileron/pilot),
For attack: bombing hit % and damage done.

Been a few months since i even looked at my score. So i dont recall all the components that are graded inthe score rank. But i think that the kills and landings should be shown in the game, butnot. Calculated into ghe overall score/rank to promote moreaggressive gameplay and fights.

Just my opinion though <S>

P.s. Typing on my moms iphone, so Apologizes for all the errors. 

tinkles, no matter how hitech selects what is important on the score.  the most import part of it will be not how skilled the players are in the game, but how skilled they are at manipulating the score.


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Re: Fighting
« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2014, 03:42:48 PM »
So i dont recall all the components that are graded inthe score rank.

Maybe you should look it up before recommending any changes to it   :P :D  :bolt:
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2014, 03:44:43 PM »
well gosh golly gee guys.....

durr...like...ummm durrr....aces high is a game ummmm durrrrr...about Ariel combat...ummmm durrrrr

I mean like...ummmm....a game with planes that have...ummm like.......ummmmmmmm........ GUNS........

ummm gee I guess I um......... expect too much when I expect people to actually USE their guns...... :rolleyes:

ya saying I am wrong..... when I expect people to fight in a fighting game.........


gee I got an idea...lets all go to the zoo....and instead of actual animals in the cages we will look at pictures........big 'ol
realistic posters of them.....in HD color.....

or how bout we go to the beach.........in a big room with some waves....sun and swimmers...... painted on a wall...........

oh...oh....oh......I got it........lets play a game that uses WW2 equipment.....with an excellent virtual recreation of these magnificent planes......were they are not re-creating WW2 because "war" sux and is not fun or fair.....but they made a giant sandbox for all kinds of COMBAT....

a new game idea called MMOG.....WOW.....you mean like for realz dude......oh ya man its great...I can fliez the fastest plane and run away err I mean disengage and reset the "fight"we can let the ground guns fight for us.......unless I have like 10 hommies...then me and my gangsta's will get em as they try to take off...we wont even let them up...we are so awesomezzz.....we will never let hour score gets los cuz we are the bestest.....and hour lo scorz proves it....

and when anyone callz us on our bullshnitz we will just say they are whinnerz and its hour 15 dollhairs......
























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Re: Fighting
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2014, 03:47:16 PM »
Unlike you, I lack the ego to think what I post or how I fly or even how often I fly 'saves the game.' Nor am I impressed that what you post, how you fly or how often you use your account does either. Nor am I driven to prove to the community that I am part of some sort of elite group of game saviors that know better than anyone else what behavior 'saves the game.' Nor do I require the amount of attention you apparently do (more than most teenage girls).

And no, I never thought your ego could survive outside virtual reality so I never expected you to attend any of the Furballs. If you manage to make one, it's doubtful the other attendees will consider it momentous or worthy of note. You'll probably be treated as just one more AH player plane geek (something the rest of us are content to be).  :D




You EGO is ever-present.  Its present in your snarky, self-promoting tone..its present in your feeble attempts to be funny with pictures you didn't create and its present with your holier-than-thou judgements of people's posts (much like everyone else) so don't try to claim moral and behavioral egoless high ground.  Its an embarrassment to read but a joy to respond.

My conversations with those folks drove the question.  Your assumptions are what prove you DO think you can have an affect on the BBS and the community.  It doesn't.  Its the thing that we actually make fun of while we speak.  You are the one that brought up my lack of desire to attend, not me and YOU not the other folks are the reason I wouldn't waste my time at one.  I suspect that is your goal...to make sure I wouldn't want to attend based on the jubilee of PM's I got from you before the first one...but we won't go there.  We don't want to disturb the Mrs.
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2014, 03:50:19 PM »
That would be ways .... not way. Every situation requires a different way to address it. If you don't know that, that's fine.
What this thread is really about is an attempt to change the perceived behavior of others (that and yet another attention thread
for Changeup). Perceived because it's always been a case of presumption when it comes to why the other player/pilot does
anything. You already know my opinion of the segment of the community that has an apparent need to be the 'behavior police.'

Very simply, nothing's broke when it comes to other players. Stop whining that it is.  :D

Another ridiculous assumption.  I asked a question with some answers we thought might be the reasons.  There are no fixes for any of it.  There are no attempted changes to the perceived behavior of others.  There is simply a question with some possible answers that I wanted to get people's opinion on.

Now, since you clearly don't have any idea what's going on here, why don't you go steal some more intardnet pics, create your own thread, and post them there.  Maybe a two weeker will log in and pat you on the back for your Googling efforts.
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2014, 03:53:00 PM »
The fact is if you were risking your life--or a severe electroshock--you would not be so careless.   There is very little in this game to disincentivise dying.   I am trying to take a slightly more realistic approach for the most part.  That is more challenging than diving into a group with careless and previously mentioned reckless abandon.

At least in games like Black Ops Zombie mode the penalty is discouraging to the kamikaze mode.  Yes, you will die eventually.  But each time you do it is time to start all over and that is so boring!  Get me to level twenty.  Now.  
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2014, 03:56:45 PM »
 

Exactly how was it helpful to the community?


Actually the OP reignited the old flame. It is the same tired old crap only posed as a question or poll instead of the usual whine or insult. These forums are full of them and they're usually started by the same cast of characters. For whatever reason they have to scream lookatme every few days and spout what mighty internet warriors they are. Once the thread is posted their buddies show up to stroke their egos and reaffirm their make believe warrior status. There will another thread of this nature along in a couple of days, if it takes that long.

Go Seahawks. :P

How?  Shifty, you obviously feel like throwing your trainer status around is meaningful and I'm sure at some level it is but the OP was a question.  If you see it differently, you should ask for clarification before you assume you know something.  There was no content or insinuation about warrior from the OP.  If your crying on here now because I can't control the responses of others OR cant control their typing then you've cried to wrong set of folks. 

There hasn't been one question asked on the BBS since I've been here that some love muffin hasn't responded with an ALT-F4 response.  If you see it differently, youre not very smart.
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2014, 03:59:02 PM »
He was. It was really an extension of a post in our forum, so I know how it was intended. Interpret it how you will.

He's an idiot.  You need look no further than his pics-in-perpetuity gifts to the community.  What a joke.  What is tiring is the number of times I've had to shake him off my leg.  Holy crap.  This guy is the energizer bunny of leg humping...he just keeps going and going and going...

And, he DOESN'T fly!  He checks other people's stats, lmao, but he doesn't fly.
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2014, 04:03:20 PM »
tinkles, no matter how hitech selects what is important on the score.  the most import part of it will be not how skilled the players are in the game, but how skilled they are at manipulating the score.


semp

Which is one of the answers to the question, numbnuts...score.  He gave a suggested change for his answer.  Tard.
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Re: Fighting
« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2014, 04:11:23 PM »
How?  Shifty, you obviously feel like throwing your trainer status around is meaningful and I'm sure at some level it is but the OP was a question.  If you see it differently, you should ask for clarification before you assume you know something.  There was no content or insinuation about warrior from the OP.  If your crying on here now because I can't control the responses of others OR cant control their typing then you've cried to wrong set of folks. 

There hasn't been one question asked on the BBS since I've been here that some love muffin hasn't responded with an ALT-F4 response.  If you see it differently, youre not very smart.

I remember how mad you got cause you didnt make it as a trainer.


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Re: Fighting
« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2014, 04:15:04 PM »
I remember how mad you got cause you didnt make it as a trainer.


semp

LMAO!!!  Mad????  You're a funny little liar Semp.  Please, if you're going to smoke dope, don't type.  It makes you look more foolish than you actually are.  I do have a math solution for your problem though...if you knew 1/2 as much as you thought you did, you'd know twice as much as you do.  Take your time figuring it out...its not a race, lmao.
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