Boom goes my tank...hit from behind a stand of trees

[Max]

He is just better than you.

Get over it.

Get over what? I didn't post a rank, I asked two questions.

Honestly people, if you can't add anything positive to this or other such topics, move on.

[Tank-Ace]

Heres what I suspect is happening:

When hes if firing at you, he is far enough from the trees that the shell's trajectory reaches is apogee long before it gets close to the tree line, and has fallen sufficiently to allow it to pass below the branches.



But when you fire, you are close enough to the tree that your shell's trajectory is at or near its apogee at the point where it crosses the tree line, thus blocking you from returning fire.





99.9% of all "BS, he shot through the trees!!!!" whines are caused by this.

[Wiley]

From what I've seen with trees, the entire tree isn't a barrier to shells.  There are spots near the bottom where the shot will go through them.  Around the trunk and maybe a few branches will stop the shells, but if you go low enough or possibly to the sides, there seems to me to be areas where the shell gets through if it's far enough away from the solid parts.

The branches seem to be the barrier, the leaves just seem to me to be concealment, not cover.

Wiley.

[waystin2]

genuine pig

[Tracerfi]

Heres what I suspect is happening:

When hes if firing at you, he is far enough from the trees that the shell's trajectory reaches is apogee long before it gets close to the tree line, and has fallen sufficiently to allow it to pass below the branches.

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But when you fire, you are close enough to the tree that your shell's trajectory is at or near its apogee at the point where it crosses the tree line, thus blocking you from returning fire.

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99.9% of all "BS, he shot through the trees!!!!" whines are caused by this.

i was just about do say that because i have done the same shooting at a angle where the shell able to pass under the tree and hit said gv

[Butcher]

funny I used to farm gblade long ago, he must of gotten better to pin point at a distance, nice work gblade!

[Max]

Heres what I suspect is happening:

When hes if firing at you, he is far enough from the trees that the shell's trajectory reaches is apogee long before it gets close to the tree line, and has fallen sufficiently to allow it to pass below the branches.

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But when you fire, you are close enough to the tree that your shell's trajectory is at or near its apogee at the point where it crosses the tree line, thus blocking you from returning fire.

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99.9% of all "BS, he shot through the trees!!!!" whines are caused by this.

Thanks Tank Ace...makes perfect sense now. 

[ozrocker]

Looking at the reponses i see that u guys doesn't have brains of a genuine pig to graps that we r talking about angles that other player should not have any vis.

Pot meet kettle. An English Teacher would have a field day with this





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[ePIC]

Im usually on the losing side, but i got film of me hitting a T34/85's direct frontal armor with a 37mm  M8 AFV. The T34 exploded, I immediately apologized on 200. The apology reduced the cheating comments significantly.

[icepac]

I see a bad thread rising 


On a serious note, Max, I have noticed some of the same things in my recent return to the GV world.  I was marking it as my lack of knowledge (that should read "haven't GV'ed seriously in about 3 years").  But the most absurd thing I've run across is the 88's being used to shell the bases on the center island on ozkansas (I think that's the name of the map).

#S#



Josh

That is truly absurd.

I have posted films of the 88s being fired over a base with them blowing up in AA mode a mile past the base yet every object they fly directly over registers a hit so you see ack blowing up as the shells fly thousands of feet overhead and exploding a mile away.

[Ack-Ack]

That is truly absurd.

I have posted films of the 88s being fired over a base with them blowing up in AA mode a mile past the base yet every object they fly directly over registers a hit so you see ack blowing up as the shells fly thousands of feet overhead and exploding a mile away.

It's just a visual thing, you see the same when tanks fire at objects or other vehicles.

ack-ack

[WEZEL]

You are close to or in the trees you cant see out, foliage and tree trunks are close together, he has distance from the trees, tree trunks and foliage are spread out and  and can see in[line of sight], he may not see the whole tank but just enough to land a shot. Take notice of friendly's driving behind trees and soon you will see an opening for a shot, most of the pm's I get when gv'ing are how did you hit me trough the trees, simple answer I seen ya  

A GVer that is a good shot can send a round trough a clump of trees no problem. Gblade my guess was in a T-34 and the HVAP round can hit a postage stamp at 1k out.

[yb3]

My T-34 is approaching the enemy GV base. I spot a bad guy tank in the distance and run for cover behind a grouping of trees. BOOM! he nails me. This is a pretty good tanker...GBlade. So he see's me while I can't see him and shoots thru the leaves & branches. Any time I do that, the shells ricochet off the leaves. What am I missing here?

Hello.
Not sure how deep you were in the tree`s or how many tree`s were in the way of the shot. But some part of your tank must have been visible or he would not have shot in the first place.

There are times when an EM GV is hiding in the tree`s you can get an some type of angle to shot but if you were 20ft to the right or left that shot may hit leaves or the tree. That can also change with the type of round what is fired maybe A round from a Panza or say a t34 hvap round to Tiger 2 round all about angles flight and range of the shot how far it needs to travel.

[flatiron1]

Pot meet kettle. An English Teacher would have a field day with this





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Hot Coffee is very intelligent. It's just he  is from the Greece area.

[Iraqvet]

My T-34 is approaching the enemy GV base. I spot a bad guy tank in the distance and run for cover behind a grouping of trees. BOOM! he nails me. This is a pretty good tanker...GBlade. So he see's me while I can't see him and shoots thru the leaves & branches. Any time I do that, the shells ricochet off the leaves. What am I missing here?

You think its bad now....just wait till the new grapix terrain comes out. You will look back and see nothing. I can't wait.