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Re: comparing
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 01:48:33 PM »
Sometimes I wish they would allow the P51 to turn like a zeke. I get tired of looking at the 6 o'clock all the time as they r... err extend out.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 01:52:32 PM »
I'm a member of JG11.  We are a luftwaffe squad.  We do not fly anthing except luftwaffe aircraft in the MA.  We fly what we are assaigned in the FSO's, normally axis.

So, no, I wouldn't be interested in flying the Hurri I.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 01:53:43 PM »
I'm a member of JG11.  We are a luftwaffe squad.  We do not fly anthing except luftwaffe aircraft in the MA.  We fly what we are assaigned in the FSO's, normally axis.

So, no, I wouldn't be interested in flying it.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2014, 01:54:51 PM »
Sometimes I wish they would allow the P51 to turn like a zeke. I get tired of looking at the 6 o'clock all the time as they r... err extend out.
I think there is an in between from turning "better" and turning like a zeek. :banana:
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Re: comparing
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2014, 01:55:28 PM »
He would be able to fly the 109e4 though... Bino flew it and the 110c exclusively one tour if I recall correctly.
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Re: comparing
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »
He would be able to fly the 109e4 though... Bino flew it and the 110c exclusively one tour if I recall correctly.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 02:44:26 PM »
Yep and at a convention it was said or it  was (rumored) its under modeled on purpose,  or it WOULD be called p 51 high.

In a previous thread, it was posted by someone from HTC that clearly stated flight models aren't adjusted for 'game play' purposes. 

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Re: comparing
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 02:49:03 PM »
In a previous thread, it was posted by someone from HTC that clearly stated flight models aren't adjusted for 'game play' purposes. 

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I think it would be very bad for the game to admit it changes anything for game play. (we would not take well to it)
And i have wondered for years...why the story's i hear for years from WWII pilots don't jive with HTC's p51 model.
No big deal ,counter to many peoples believes this game is not real life,its aces high world,im good with it.

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Re: comparing
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2014, 02:49:21 PM »
In a previous thread, it was posted by someone from HTC that clearly stated flight models aren't adjusted for 'game play' purposes. 

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Yeah ok the brew isnt  :rofl

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2014, 02:53:26 PM »
Yeah ok the brew isnt  :rofl

Show any data that proves the flight model on the B-239 is incorrect.  To date, all of those that have complained about the B-239's flight model have yet to show any data to back their claim.  Most seem not to realize that the B-239 we have is the F2A-1 and not the F2A-2 the Dutch/RAF/Commonwealth forces flew or the F2A-3 the Marines flew at Midway.

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Re: comparing
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 02:54:40 PM »
I think it would be very bad for the game to admit it changes anything for game play. (we would not take well to it)
And i have wondered for years...why the story's i hear for years from WWII pilots don't jive with HTC's p51 model.
No big deal ,counter to many peoples believes this game is not real life,its aces high world,im good with it.

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So you have no proof other than some baseless rumor and you're willing to believe that over the developers.   :rofl

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Re: comparing
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2014, 02:56:36 PM »
I think it would be very bad for the game to admit it changes anything for game play. (we would not take well to it)
And i have wondered for years...why the story's i hear for years from WWII pilots don't jive with HTC's p51 model.
No big deal ,counter to many peoples believes this game is not real life,its aces high world,im good with it.

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Re: comparing
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2014, 02:58:28 PM »
I think it would be very bad for the game to admit it changes anything for game play. (we would not take well to it)
And i have wondered for years...why the story's i hear for years from WWII pilots don't jive with HTC's p51 model.
No big deal ,counter to many peoples believes this game is not real life,its aces high world,im good with it.

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Let me state this as strongly as I can. We model planes to the absolute best of our ability and our only goal is to make them perform as close to the real thing as we can.

We have NEVER made flight model decisions based on any game play criteria.

If you ever imply other wise again either on the board or in the arena you will in effect be calling me a liar , and I would no longer have use for you as a customer.

Why would we have any reason to do other wise. Do you think it really makes us any difference to HTC what plane is better then another? What motivation could we possibly have to make flight models base on anything but real data.

I can show you multiple instances where players have shown us an inaccuracy in our flight model and backed it up with real data. And we have made modification base on those finds.


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Re: comparing
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2014, 03:07:08 PM »
The whole reason for this game is WW2 combat aircraft simulation.. Anyone that has followed this series or prior HTC projects at all is aware of that.. Why someone would suggest otherwise is really selfish and ignorant..
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Re: comparing
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2014, 03:15:41 PM »
Let me state this as strongly as I can. We model planes to the absolute best of our ability and our only goal is to make them perform as close to the real thing as we can.

We have NEVER made flight model decisions based on any game play criteria.

If you ever imply other wise again either on the board or in the arena you will in effect be calling me a liar , and I would no longer have use for you as a customer.

Why would we have any reason to do other wise. Do you think it really makes us any difference to HTC what plane is better then another? What motivation could we possibly have to make flight models base on anything but real data.

I can show you multiple instances where players have shown us an inaccuracy in our flight model and backed it up with real data. And we have made modification base on those finds.


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:D You want to remove me from your game because i have an opinion,right or wrong? Then that's your game to do with as you wish. Again all i said was i WONDER why all the shows and story's i seen seem to say your p51 under preforms,it was just a question.
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