TU-2S, the best Bomber in the game.

[GScholz]

B-29 has 50 mph on the Tu-2S at 30k...

[Widewing]

B-29 has 50 mph on the Tu-2S at 30k...

Empty, with about 30 minutes of fuel, the B-29 is 60 mph faster than the Tu-2S at 30k.

[GScholz]

Even worse... Makes interception very difficult.

[PJ_Godzilla]

It's only the best if sufficiently qualified. In intuitive terms, consider, though, which of the comparators requires the most preparation for an attack? I know that I spend a lot more time cup-checking and gaining position before attacking any of the heavies and also the 25 and 26 because of their defensive firepower/aspect.

 

[Widewing]

A-20 is freakishly tough for its weight of airplane.  The Tu-2S is a very light bomber, being only slightly heavier empty than an empty Mossie so its durability is about what I'd expect.

The A-20G can sure take a beating. It may shed a lot of parts, but the wings stay on and it rarely burns.

Last night during just two sorties with one re-arm, I shot down 5 Lancasters, 3 B-26, 1 B-24, 1 B-17, 1 Panzer, 1 T-34/85, sank a cruiser, and had 5 assists. No damage during the 1 st sortie, one engine leaking oil on the second sortie (ship ack). 6 guns in the nose, with plenty of ammo make it very lethal.

The A-20 I lost (mentioned in the previous post), had both engines quit and I was trying to deadstick land it, when a Ta 152 shot off my remaining elevator. Without power, the nose can't be raised and I crashed. Keep in mind, that many A-20s are lost due to losing the wings in high g maneuvers. They are also very susceptible to pilot wounds and deaths to shots from the front quadrant. I'm hoping that when the A-20/Boston gets its update, that HTC models the front pilot armor. Also, they should have enough photos to model the ventral .50 cal MG. Likewise, many of the exported G models (to the Soviets) were fitted with four 20mm Hispanos. I'd like to see that too (even as a perked option). Adding the A-20J with glazed nose would be nice (retaining 2 forward firing .50 cal MGs).

[icepac]

Even worse... Makes interception very difficult.

Yet I have chunks of b29 in my stool.

[XxDaSTaRxx]

The B-29 is the best bomber due to bombload, defensive capabilities and range.

The TU-2 is a medium bomber at best with a shorter range than heavy buffs. As Earl pointed out, there are a few blind spots that the TU-2 cannot cover.

The B-29 is still the dominant bomber of the game, with the B-17G and the B-24J tied for second place. The TU-2 is a fragile plane. A B-29, 17, or 24 can take much more damage than a TU-2 can. I'm not going to put it against you though, because the TU-2 is a medium bomber.

As for speed, as GScholz pointed out, the B-29 has 50 mph on the TU-2 at 30k, but this would be dependent on bomb load and fuel load.

Oh and, They don't call it the Superfortress for nothing  

[AH_WOODY]

TU-2S is a great bomber, and it is one of the greatest as everyone else has said because it is so versatile. You can use it for alot of things and it does pretty well for all of them, but when people compare it to a 17 or 29 i believe that the american heavy bombers have it beat in high altitude, formation bombing. Everything else though, it holds its own pretty well.

[Karnak]

The A-20G can sure take a beating. It may shed a lot of parts, but the wings stay on and it rarely burns.

Last night during just two sorties with one re-arm, I shot down 5 Lancasters, 3 B-26, 1 B-24, 1 B-17, 1 Panzer, 1 T-34/85, sank a cruiser, and had 5 assists. No damage during the 1 st sortie, one engine leaking oil on the second sortie (ship ack). 6 guns in the nose, with plenty of ammo make it very lethal.

The A-20 I lost (mentioned in the previous post), had both engines quit and I was trying to deadstick land it, when a Ta 152 shot off my remaining elevator. Without power, the nose can't be raised and I crashed. Keep in mind, that many A-20s are lost due to losing the wings in high g maneuvers. They are also very susceptible to pilot wounds and deaths to shots from the front quadrant. I'm hoping that when the A-20/Boston gets its update, that HTC models the front pilot armor. Also, they should have enough photos to model the ventral .50 cal MG. Likewise, many of the exported G models (to the Soviets) were fitted with four 20mm Hispanos. I'd like to see that too (even as a perked option). Adding the A-20J with glazed nose would be nice (retaining 2 forward firing .50 cal MGs).

I'd be willing to bet that the armor is modeled, just as it is on the P-38s and Mossie VI which also suffer many more pilot wounds than singe engined fighters do.

The core durability of the A-20G is excessive as compared to other aircraft in its general weight category.

As to the 20mm, sure, but only if perked.  If added without being perked you'd almost never see the historically common version in the game.

XxDaSTaRxx,

By usage the Lancaster is the dominant bomber in the game.

[Rich46yo]

The bottom line is the TU-2S damage model is under modeled. I doubt this will be fixed so it is what it is. Any medium bomber with an almost 45 year service life is not going to be "fragile". This thing had a reputation for being tough! I dont think its drastically under modeled but I do believe it is. Heck run into the wrong guy in a 262 and you'll lose 3 26s in one pass also.

Many fine points made here and you have to look at the big picture. Nothing is ever going to touch the 29 at what its good at. The 17 is always going to be a tough work horse. Theres a reason the Lanc was feared and those cities burned at night. But to be honest i think if you cut out the "bomb and bailers" the Lanc would be seen used less then the TU.

But if I had to pick an "all around work horse"? The one Bomber that can "do it all". I think the TU-2S has set a new standard.

[GScholz]

The B-29 is the best bomber due to bombload, defensive capabilities and range.

I agree, if we only include piston engined bombers.

[GScholz]

The Tu-2S is a great all-rounder medium bomber/strike aircraft. Ideally suited for the MA environment.

[Tilt]

The Tu-2 fits the present game dynamic well because it can take out 4 hangers per mission. That's closing down a small airfields fighters and vehicles or all a vehicle fields hangers.

It joins a small club of planes that can do this....

If up coming changes alter this then it's role may change also.

[XxDaSTaRxx]

XxDaSTaRxx,

By usage the Lancaster is the dominant bomber in the game.

By usage. The B-29 is perked, which makes it an awfully rare bird to see. It outdoes the lanc in payload, range, and defense, as it will any bomber.

[GScholz]

By usage. The B-29 is perked, which makes it an awfully rare bird to see. It outdoes the lanc in payload, range, and defense, as it will any bomber.

Defense is very arguable... There are two bombers in the game that don't really need guns for defense.