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Offline GScholz

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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #435 on: March 24, 2014, 12:52:02 PM »
All hope is lost. How long should their families wait until they get to take care of their lost ones' affairs?
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #436 on: March 24, 2014, 01:34:43 PM »
 Someone w/more real knowledge correct me...but the 'black-box' will function if all circuits are cut.

 And 'hope' springs eternal..... Just sayin'
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #437 on: March 24, 2014, 02:13:24 PM »
The black box draws power from the aircraft. On TWA 800, which exploded in mid-air, they identified electrical shorting due to the black box recording cutting out intermittently.
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #438 on: March 24, 2014, 05:08:14 PM »
 Forgive me if I await someone 'IN' the field....someone with more direct knowledge.
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #439 on: March 24, 2014, 05:15:22 PM »
You are forgiven.  :aok
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #440 on: March 24, 2014, 05:25:03 PM »
Forgive me if I await someone 'IN' the field....someone with more direct knowledge.
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Hey JG!  Hard to say what happened since the only two that know the facts are unavailable.  There are so many variables that could have played out.  One thing that is fairly evident is the apparent intentional transponder disabling.  This seems to suggest someone in the cockpit, one or both pilots or a external party, shut the transponder off via the switch or a circuit breaker.  In the "normal" world of aviation ops, the transponder is a pilot's best friend.  If a chaotic event occurs, selecting the emergency code gets ATC's immediate attention and all kinds of assistance.  In this instance, it appears that someone in the cockpit wanted to be as invisible as possible.  Just some thoughts for consideration.

Take care bud!   :salute



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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #441 on: March 24, 2014, 05:28:02 PM »
 Puma! I really was Po'd my puter wasn't up to the wingman stuff you tried to teach us! I've backed off abit on flying as 'spring' is busy time.
 Bless you and yours, buddy, blue skies!
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #442 on: March 24, 2014, 05:32:23 PM »
 
Puma! I really was Po'd my puter wasn't up to the wingman stuff you tried  to teach us! I've backed off abit on flying as 'spring' is busy time.
 Bless you and yours, buddy, blue skies!
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Right back at ya, my friend!   :salute



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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #443 on: March 24, 2014, 05:41:25 PM »
  :salute Sir...even more off topic..Phantom sexiest jet, ever!

 Now..back to topic at hand!
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #444 on: March 24, 2014, 05:42:53 PM »
  :salute Sir...even more off topic..Phantom sexiest jet, ever!

 Now..back to topic at hand!
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Ditto!  Back in!  :aok



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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #445 on: March 24, 2014, 06:04:26 PM »
 I would suspect the culpret for the cutting/in/out on 'TWA 800' was due to the internals of 'black box' switching from it's batterries to the live on-board charging system of the aircraft as they came on-line than off-line...but what do I know?? I also suspect(w/o knowledge) this is less of problem 'now'. ...but what do I know?? Less & less as I get older.
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #446 on: March 24, 2014, 06:33:29 PM »
Hard to say until the wreckage and black boxes are located.  A whole lot of questions to be answered with this one.



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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #447 on: March 24, 2014, 07:31:24 PM »
(if they find the plane and black boxes)
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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #448 on: March 24, 2014, 07:44:33 PM »
..and a big if, it is.



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Re: Malaysian airlines 777 missing
« Reply #449 on: March 25, 2014, 04:32:14 AM »
Interesting interview on the beeb with one of the Inmarsat satellite guys:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26723980
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB