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Offline tunnelrat

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Ki-84 vs FM2
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:55:52 PM »
So, I'm pretty familiar with how the different planes in Aces High fly - at least from an "On Paper" standpoint.... the FM2 is/was an exception to this rule.

As you can see, I blew it out my bellybutton here from the get-go... I am still getting both reaquainted with Aces High and with TrackIR in general.

Aside from the poor merge, I've been told I should have tried to utilize the speed/climb in the Ki-84 to get up on top and fight a more BnZ fight.

Any other advice/criticism/ridicule is invited.

http://www.twitch.tv/x80hd/c/4118401


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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 02:00:41 PM »
Other than in a dive, the Ki-84 should out class the FM-2 in all areas.  In your case, a spiral climb would have been sufficient enough to get on top of the FM-2 and dictate the fight from the position of advantage.

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 02:05:26 PM »
'Failed to load video'.

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 02:07:50 PM »
'Failed to load video'.



Yeah, Twitch is balls sometimes.  Takes a reload or two now and then.

Other than in a dive, the Ki-84 should out class the FM-2 in all areas.  In your case, a spiral climb would have been sufficient enough to get on top of the FM-2 and dictate the fight from the position of advantage.

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Yeah, that's what I thought... I tried keeping my nose up, thinking he'd eventually lose the energy fight that way, but I guess I am doing something wrong.

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 02:16:44 PM »
ahf file?

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »
Yep... you lost it on the merge.  The only thing the FM2 can do better than you is turn a tighter circle.  Taking the fight vertical from the start would have likely seen him die or just head for the deck.
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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 02:24:02 PM »
Pick a fight with INK and tell him too put his money where his mouth is... challenge him to a DA session and record the beating he gives you.... watch film until your eyes bleed. Then find INK's sissy arse again and rinse repeat.  :aok


All kidding aside find guys like INK who fly that bird exclusively and ask them too let you ride with them while they are in the MA or hit the TA / DA

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 02:35:37 PM »
 :rofl

 :salute Dead....I am workin on my system now trying to get it to connect...once Its running,
ill be up for some Ki84 action... :joystick:

unless the Fm2 already has massive E he will not be able to follow you up...a spiral climb as AKAK says is great and what the KI excels at....you can hang on that prop unlike most others...except for the nasty fall backward stall...which is easy to get out of, just kill the engine :aok...I have seen my speeds drop below 60 MPH and still in full control :t

now if the FM2 has that massive e advantage...just de throttle and work an angle as he passes you by...the fast firing 20 mils of the KI make quick work of any fighter especially hitting at convergence...

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 02:44:47 PM »
:rofl

 :salute Dead....I am workin on my system now trying to get it to connect...once Its running,
ill be up for some Ki84 action... :joystick:

unless the Fm2 already has massive E he will not be able to follow you up...a spiral climb as AKAK says is great and what the KI excels at....you can hang on that prop unlike most others...except for the nasty fall backward stall...which is easy to get out of, just kill the engine :aok...I have seen my speeds drop below 60 MPH and still in full control :t

now if the FM2 has that massive e advantage...just de throttle and work an angle as he passes you by...the fast firing 20 mils of the KI make quick work of any fighter especially hitting at convergence...


Can't WAIT for you to get back, man!

I've been getting better at the angles, still a ways to go though.  Thank you (all) for the insights!
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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 02:54:47 PM »
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you wont have too long of a wait.....


I am psyched....I am connected and will be in DA shaking off some rust in a few moments. :rock

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 02:56:28 PM »
:salute

you wont have too long of a wait.....


I am psyched....I am connected and will be in DA shaking off some rust in a few moments. :rock

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Kick ass! I won't be on until 7PM your time so don't burn out!

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 03:08:05 PM »
Take the FM2 to the DA to see what it can do.  I think I will do just that myself. 

I got bounced by a FM2 the other day from below in a furball which I caught just in time.  I went up in the Ki thinking this was going to be a piece of cake.  I miss judged his E.  A sprial as Ack suggested would have worked.  I have used that in the 38 with some success in the past.

Fm2s are hard to hit for sloppy shooters like me.

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 04:00:18 PM »
:rofl

 :salute Dead....I am workin on my system now trying to get it to connect...once Its running,
ill be up for some Ki84 action... :joystick:

unless the Fm2 already has massive E he will not be able to follow you up...a spiral climb as AKAK says is great and what the KI excels at....you can hang on that prop unlike most others...except for the nasty fall backward stall...which is easy to get out of, just kill the engine :aok...I have seen my speeds drop below 60 MPH and still in full control :t

now if the FM2 has that massive e advantage...just de throttle and work an angle as he passes you by...the fast firing 20 mils of the KI make quick work of any fighter especially hitting at convergence...

Ill take inks spot if you want to meet in the DA sometime. I'll show you some advantages that the ki84 has over a "better" turning plane like the FM2 if you would like.
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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 04:03:16 PM »
Who was flying the FM2?  I cant see the film for some reason.

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Re: Ki-84 vs FM2
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 04:19:13 PM »
So, I'm pretty familiar with how the different planes in Aces High fly - at least from an "On Paper" standpoint.... the FM2 is/was an exception to this rule.

As you can see, I blew it out my bellybutton here from the get-go... I am still getting both reaquainted with Aces High and with TrackIR in general.

Aside from the poor merge, I've been told I should have tried to utilize the speed/climb in the Ki-84 to get up on top and fight a more BnZ fight.

Any other advice/criticism/ridicule is invited.

http://www.twitch.tv/x80hd/c/4118401



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