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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2014, 02:31:36 PM »
This is an ABSOLUTE TRUTH. It is incontrovertible and undeniable. -S- Ink!
What bothers me the most about this thread is those who continuously say it doesn't happen. While maybe not every flight of buffs that goes down or every cv that is found is because of "spiez", to always, ALWAYS respond that it doesn't happen is, frankly, disingenuous. I have observed, as mentioned an instance that without a doubt was someone from an opposing side trying to gain an unfair advantage. In my book, it's called CHEATING. People cheat, to say it doesn't happen here is foolish.



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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2014, 02:38:17 PM »
I've been in missions where you had high bombers or NOE missions, and someone sees a group of enemies coming to intercept the mission, always assuming someone ratted the mission or has a shade account.  When in reality, someone popped dar or simply looked at the map to see the 1-2 sector darbar.   It's kind of surprising how many couldn't fly NOE, about 2-3 players augered at every NOE mission I ever participated in.  As for high bombers, well, I was almost always a gunner.  :D
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2014, 03:14:36 PM »
Players shading for info?  Yes.  Anywhere near as often as that accusation shows up? No.

A player with a little experience can come up with 3 or 4 good guesses on what the plan is when there is a dar bar away from the front.  Watch it cross a sector or two, combine that with your best guess and you can interrupt someone's plans.
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2014, 04:10:18 PM »
a mission that's showing a large bar got attacked?  :eek:


having combat with people who are avoiding combat in a combat game is now dishonorable?


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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2014, 05:21:22 PM »
Earl I got curious who these guys were so I looked at the stats. They don't show you having any bomber deaths by 262. You've died twice this month to 262s once in a C-47 and once in a P-38L.
Is P-38 what you meant by upping bombers?

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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2014, 05:47:04 PM »
I would say that the whole "spies" thing is a topic that needs no more attention.  For all the crap those opposed to the 12 hour rule took from the forum cheerleaders, at least that issue COULD be changed or altered, affected to some degree by change.  This whole spying/2nd accounts thing:  Unless HTC has found a way to eliminate people using a name of a friend, wife, gf, or even just a made up one with a prepaid credit card, and VPN personal network IP hiders, there is NO possible way for HTC to stop people from creating 2nd accounts and using them.  I agree, it's a dishonest, gamey, dishonorable, and perhaps even the "C word which shall not be named here, gasp", but it is truly impossible to control or stop.  Making statements that you dislike and disagree with 2nd accounts/spying/whatever - well, I'm sure most people already know how the regular correspondents of the issue feel.

I'm also of the opinion that often it's just good players using the tools of the game, experience, and even instinct that finds and spoils bomber raids, and that often the "spies" calls are a cry-wolf sort of deal.  I'm not saying it never happens, we all know that it does with a certainty.  I'm just of the opinion that it isn't as regular a thing, or as large a problem as all that.  I respect the OP, and understand his frustration, but unfortunately there isn't much, if anything, that can be done about the issue.  Bearing that in mind, understand that there is a huge likelyhood that bomber missions will be always rapidly discovered, through honest and sometimes "dishonest" methods, and prepare yourself accordingly by either getting more escorts, or becoming more like 999000 when it comes to pew pew pew'ing with the bombers defensive guns. 

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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2014, 06:13:24 PM »
If enemy icons showed call signs, 999000 would have to change his name every week to get cons to attack him  :D
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2014, 06:21:54 PM »
If enemy icons showed call signs, 999000 would have to change his name every week to get cons to attack him  :D

Contrary for sure.  Only a pillow biter runs from a training opportunity like that.  I'd have the boys glued to him.  No other buffs would ever be safe again after that.

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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2014, 07:01:35 PM »
More than once our squad has purposely taken back one of our bases to push our own strats back to the front.  It always causes howling but its our base, they can't have it.  If the strats being up front causes strat attacks, great, some more stuff to shoot at  :D

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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2014, 07:06:55 PM »
You don't need two accounts to "spy".  Squad channel crosses county lines.  Hell, I can PM anyone in any other arena if I want to.

As to the OP's accusations name names.  How can we have a good witch hunt without names?
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2014, 07:08:42 PM »
Earl I got curious who these guys were so I looked at the stats. They don't show you having any bomber deaths by 262. You've died twice this month to 262s once in a C-47 and once in a P-38L.
Is P-38 what you meant by upping bombers?

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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2014, 07:10:31 PM »
Honor?  Tom Brady is your man..
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2014, 07:16:12 PM »
As all your buffs got shot down you know who the 4 262 pilots are. PM them and ask how they spotted you. They may tell you and you can learn from it. At the worst you'll get some BS answer and be no worst off.
Followed the dar bar real simple.
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2014, 08:04:47 PM »
And you're proud of that?

Proud?  Not sure thats the right description.  Its just is the way it is.  The idea is to fight.  Leaving our land in enemy hands in hopes they quit attacking the strats seems silly.  I might have family on that island.
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Re: Is Honor all Gone?
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2014, 08:48:59 PM »
ET I was on bish side and that big dar bar was all that bish could talk about.  :salute