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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #285 on: October 12, 2014, 10:09:38 PM »
I read that the nurse that got it in spain touched an infected man's face with her gloved hand, and then touched her face with the same gloved hand. Now does that sound like a disease that's "very difficult to catch" as the american media likes to say?

That was for the woman in Spain.

For the woman in the US, it is even more to your point.  She was gowned, gloved, masked, and visored, and as far as she or anyone else there knew, was taking all the correct precautions.  From
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_CDC?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-12-11-34-33
"A top federal health official says a health worker diagnosed with Ebola has been unable to identify a breach in procedures that might have led to her infection."
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #286 on: October 12, 2014, 10:26:47 PM »
Well protocol as I understand it when working around a biosecurity level 4 pathogen includes wearing a positive pressure suit, not a gown. Maybe it really is necessary.
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #287 on: October 12, 2014, 10:32:10 PM »
I can honestly say that I do not think this:



.... would be an exaggerated measure.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #288 on: October 13, 2014, 05:56:00 AM »
Removing the protective clothes is easy to screw-up.   

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #289 on: October 13, 2014, 06:03:57 AM »
Removing the protective clothes is easy to screw-up.   

It seems they don't have a proper decontamination procedure, they should be suited up and rinsed with disinfectant before removing the suit.
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #290 on: October 13, 2014, 07:38:55 PM »
Who the hell cares about Ebola?

Honestly, when a loved one of yours gets infected then you can bring it here, Until then, stop pissing your pants about it.

What are YOU going to do about Ebola? You can't do anything.


 we can do our damndest to make sure that no one we love comes in contact with the virus. that's an awful lot.
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #291 on: October 13, 2014, 07:41:55 PM »
I read that the nurse that got it in spain touched an infected man's face with her gloved hand, and then touched her face with the same gloved hand. Now does that sound like a disease that's "very difficult to catch" as the american media likes to say?

 the problem i have with the media, is that they tend to glaze over some things for any number of reasons. in this instance, it may be to try to prevent mass panic. i don't thinkt hat's a good enough reason to lie about it though. i think that there's lots that we're not being told, and that's what's got me nervous about this crap.
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #292 on: October 13, 2014, 10:03:42 PM »
Who the hell cares about Ebola?

Honestly, when a loved one of yours gets infected then you can bring it here, Until then, stop pissing your pants about it.

What are YOU going to do about Ebola? You can't do anything.


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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #293 on: October 13, 2014, 11:02:56 PM »
I can honestly say that I do not think this:

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.... would be an exaggerated measure.

They could use a "suitport" for the patient room... Faster and safer (I guess). Isn't NASA looking for a useful mission to work on?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitport





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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #294 on: October 14, 2014, 06:58:36 AM »
I always wondered where zipper sleeves and shorts came from.  Now I know it was aliens sharing there tecnology with NASA.  :aok

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #295 on: October 14, 2014, 04:06:56 PM »
Our health worker who got infected is apparently getting better.

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #296 on: October 14, 2014, 05:48:52 PM »
I've just read on Discovery about this  "Ebola zapping robot unleashed in hospitals,",lol, zapping any viruses including Ebola with UV light , like R2 from Star Wars :lol.
 ; this machines are already deployed on Hospitals and they want to deploy some in Africa ; I don't know what believe, let's hope this works,was developed and buit by this company San Antonio,
http://www.xenex.com/    specialized in disinfection equipment with ultraviolet light. The UV light from Sun can kill humans, why not microscopic viruses!




http://news.discovery.com/tech/robotics/ebola-zapping-robots-unleashed-in-hospitals-141011.htm
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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #297 on: October 14, 2014, 07:39:45 PM »
I've just read on Discovery about this  "Ebola zapping robot unleashed in hospitals,",lol, zapping any viruses including Ebola with UV light , like R2 from Star Wars :lol.
 ; this machines are already deployed on Hospitals and they want to deploy some in Africa ; I don't know what believe, let's hope this works,was developed and buit by this company San Antonio,
http://www.xenex.com/    specialized in disinfection equipment with ultraviolet light. The UV light from Sun can kill humans, why not microscopic viruses!


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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #298 on: October 15, 2014, 02:57:07 AM »
This is not comforting news:

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola

The relevant point:

"Being at first skeptical that Ebola virus could be an aerosol-transmissible disease, we are now persuaded by a review of experimental and epidemiologic data that this might be an important feature of disease transmission, particularly in healthcare settings."

They then go on (in detail) to say why they think that.

Particularly of note to me:

"Experimental work has shown that Marburg and Ebola viruses can be isolated from sera and tissue culture medium at room temperature for up to 46 days, but at room temperature no virus was recovered from glass, metal, or plastic surfaces.23 Aerosolized (1-3 mcm) Marburg, Ebola, and Reston viruses, at 50% to 55% relative humidity and 72°F, had biological decay rates of 3.04%, 3.06%. and 1.55% per minute, respectively. These rates indicate that 99% loss in aerosol infectivity would occur in 93, 104, and 162 minutes, respectively.23

In still air, 3-mcm particles can take up to an hour to settle. With air currents, these and smaller particles can be transported considerable distances before they are deposited on a surface."

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Re: Ebola coming to a town near you.
« Reply #299 on: October 15, 2014, 02:58:24 AM »
I am feeling even more strongly that it is horribly negligent to allow travel from Ebola-ravaged areas into the US.