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Offline mthrockmor

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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2014, 01:29:06 PM »
For reasons stated I vote we add the F8F at some point. Did not see combat but clearly in squad strength. The Ta-152 saw combat though, if I remember correctly, not what you would call squad strength.

Down the road yes. Marketing plan to get up numbers associated with the release of eye candy first.

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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #91 on: September 23, 2014, 01:50:42 PM »

It certainly wasn't in AW.

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This is why it should not be labeled "Korea", which is very limiting. Instead it should be "cold-war" or something and can include all jets and the last prop fighters/attackers from the 50s and early 60s - the kind with no significant radar and guns as their main weapon (crappy 1st generation, 40 deg aspect, IR missiles still require ACM). Later than that it becomes switches combat.
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« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2014, 03:09:52 PM »
I disagree. If it doesn't involve a guns on solution then leave it out.

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KOREAN WAR

Leave 'missles high' to some Eastern European outfit.

Now, WWII surface ships .....

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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2014, 04:54:07 PM »
I disagree. If it doesn't involve a guns on solution then leave it out.

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Leave 'missles high' to some Eastern European outfit.
This is why I said till early 60s.
Missiles were pretty much useless against fighters till the late 60s or even into the 70s. It did not prevent planes from carrying them and lobbing a few of them around, but the vast majority of the kills in that period were with  cannons.
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« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2014, 05:33:54 PM »
This is why I said till early 60s.
Missiles were pretty much useless against fighters till the late 60s or even into the 70s. It did not prevent planes from carrying them and lobbing a few of them around, but the vast majority of the kills in that period were with  cannons.

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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2014, 05:34:54 PM »
With Hispano's it would be that awesome.

No way it deserves being perked like a 262. It's awesome, but not THAT awesome.
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2014, 05:37:23 PM »
Spanish Civil War arena(or a 1920s/30s Arena) would be cooler than a 1946 or Korean War arena.
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« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2014, 06:44:53 PM »
Spanish Civil War arena(or a 1920s/30s Arena) would be cooler than a 1946 or Korean War arena.
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2014, 09:41:16 PM »
Yes, the F8F is a beast and would be able to pwn just about anything else flying here now.  That said, it is rather short legged as it was designed for the fleet interceptor role.  Once you dump off all those external tanks and get into a fight, you'd better keep your eye on the fuel gauge.   Frankly, introducing another perked plane into the game probably wouldn't do much - we don't see hordes of F4U-4s running around, and that is definitely the hottest thing you can take off a deck right now.   

I'd rather hitech spend the time getting all the rides we have now up to spec - it is frankly embarrassing to have the spits and typhoons with a nice cockpit while the tempest looks like it does.  Once that is done I'd like to see a couple more axis rides (maybe a J2M and Fiat G.55) so that the FSO's get a little more varied.

   

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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #100 on: September 26, 2014, 05:51:53 AM »
What EagleDNY said. 

Great bird.  Should be added.  A squadron of them flew over the signing of the peace treaty already!

Add other needed planes first please.
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #101 on: September 26, 2014, 07:34:57 PM »
F8F is a neat bird.  I would never fly in AH again if it were added.  The level of helplessness most aircraft in AH would have against it, four BMG .50s are plenty, make it a game killer.  Me262 is pathetic in comparison.
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #102 on: September 26, 2014, 09:06:36 PM »
F8F is a neat bird.  I would never fly in AH again if it were added.  The level of helplessness most aircraft in AH would have against it, four BMG .50s are plenty, make it a game killer.  Me262 is pathetic in comparison.

Dude, seriously?  Four fifties are enough 1v1 but in a normal MA environment,  an F8F is going to have to fly more like a Tempest because everyone will be gunning for him.  Uber four cannon birds are going to be far more dangerous to your Mossie.  In a 1v1 scenario, most LW fighters will crush the Mossie in short order.  How would things be any different with an F8F?
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #103 on: September 26, 2014, 11:43:48 PM »
Dude, seriously?  Four fifties are enough 1v1 but in a normal MA environment,  an F8F is going to have to fly more like a Tempest because everyone will be gunning for him.  Uber four cannon birds are going to be far more dangerous to your Mossie.  In a 1v1 scenario, most LW fighters will crush the Mossie in short order.  How would things be any different with an F8F?

F8fs 4 fifty's would have a higher rate of fire than the 6 fifties found in the f6f.
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Re: F8F-1 Standard Characteristics... A genuine monster
« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2014, 12:54:01 AM »
  Uber four cannon birds are going to be far more dangerous to your Mossie.  In a 1v1 scenario, most LW fighters will crush the Mossie in short order.
Hmmm... Believe me - no they don't.
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Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs