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Offline zack1234

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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2014, 12:17:58 PM »
Bizman cannot speak English :)
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2014, 01:57:44 PM »
Anata wa Skuzzy ga eigoigai no gengo de henshin suru tame ni watashi ni harawotaterudarou to omoimasu ka?

Watashi wa sore ga `rūru' ni ihan toejamaga chansu wa, kare wa tonikaku sore o sakujo shimasu to wa omowanai...

Sore wa watashi ga Skuzzy Lusche kara yurushi o kouga hitsuyō ni naru baai ga arimasu hōhōdesu...

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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2014, 02:38:47 PM »
Bizman cannot speak English :)
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2014, 03:17:03 PM »
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2014, 04:22:03 PM »
In my opinion, at least for me, immersion is the only way to really learn a language. Necessity was my best teacher. I had to take german in highschool, I got A's but about all I know in german today is counting. Classes help, but if you can't practice what you learn with people who don't understand english.. well good luck.
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2014, 04:24:54 PM »
I speak English and American. Although my American has a bit of a Philly/ coal cracker region twang to it.    :D
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2014, 09:16:57 PM »
Learning languages is very fun but you're not going to learn Japanese on your own. You might learn some phrases and words but the language is just too far removed from English to learn without intensive classwork and immersion.

For a language like German or Swedish which is practically English with an accent this is much more doable, but once you start moving out of the Germanic or Romance (and especially Indo-European) trees language learning gets exponentially more difficult.

Coming to school I thought I'd take Russian for fun since German came so easily to me in high school, I could already read Cyrillic etc. and honestly that first semester of Russian was as much work as/almost as hard as that first semester of organic chemistry. And, after two years of that level of coursework in one of the most intensive slavic departments in the country, and not having taken German since my junior year of high school, ich spreche doch jetzt besser auf Deutsch als ich spreche auf Russisch (und ich spreche sehr schlecht auf Deutsch). Унзнать не-романские или -германские языки - очень трудно.

As far as specific experiences with Japanese, I have two friends who studied Japanese all through high school, both went to Japan, have taken at least two years of Japanese here, one of whom is majoring in Japanese and has been there multiple times and is actually currently spending the year there. They do pretty well in the Japanese program here/exceed what's expected of them.

My Japanese major friend basically told me when she took a semester of Italian (which isn't even Germanic like English) for S's and G's her freshman year she pretty much developed more conversationality in that language over the course of a semester than she did in 4 years of Japanese and multiple visits to Japan, one of which I think was for a couple of months.

It's just super super super hard. Not to be discouraging, but if you just try to jump in and learn Japanese on your own you're not going to get very far and that's going to be even more discouraging. Especially if you haven't previously developed multilingualism, learning new languages becomes that much harder. Especially if you're older, too.

Our local public library has discussion classes in Russian, Japanese, German, and several other languages I think, I'd look into finding something similar around you if you can, if you're interested in learning a new language.
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2014, 10:06:23 PM »
My son has a natural talent for learning languages.  Not sure if it is a good ear or what but he had no trouble with Japanese or French. 

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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2014, 10:25:35 PM »
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 02:54:03 PM »
The best way is taking classes (or that uber-expensive Rosetta Stone) to get the basics down and then GO to that country or countries that speak that language through immersion. 

Communicating in the target language without having people in the other country know any of your mother language forces you to learn...and FAST.

That way you can confidently order an omelet du frommage at a restaurant without, as Steve Martin says, without getting a shoe with cheese on it.
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 03:28:04 PM »
Someone on this board...  very unlikely...

Rolex still around?  But yeah, try some Anime forums.  College kids love that stuff and learn Japanese on their own to understand it, I'm sure they have help resources if you do some searches.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 03:32:33 PM »
Rolex still around?  But yeah, try some Anime forums. 



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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 03:37:41 PM »
That way you can confidently order an omelet du frommage at a restaurant without, as Steve Martin says, without getting a shoe with cheese on it.



omelette au fromage  :old:

(Couldn't resist - used the same wrong phrase myself for a long time, but not from Steve Martin but from Dexter's Lab)
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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 03:52:02 PM »

omelette au fromage  :old:

(Couldn't resist - used the same wrong phrase myself for a long time, but not from Steve Martin but from Dexter's Lab)

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Re: Bi-lingual?
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 04:19:31 PM »
Being bi-lingual in Europe is the norm. Tri-lingual is not uncomon. Quadri-lingual you start to stand out. :airplane:
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