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Offline Arlo

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2015, 05:53:30 PM »
Battle of Taranto anyone?  :cool:

Prezactly. (Though the Italian BBs could be done as terrain objects.)

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2015, 01:53:23 AM »
At least go with the BBs that fit best with the game Arlo :)

USS California and the other clipper bow BBs.  Then you've got Pearl covered as well as all the shore bombardment those BBs did during the war.  And finally you've got the last BBs to engage in a surface action at Surigo Straight (sp)

Gotta love the look of those clipper bows, even in high seas

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2015, 05:50:53 AM »
At least go with the BBs that fit best with the game Arlo :)

USS California and the other clipper bow BBs.  Then you've got Pearl covered as well as all the shore bombardment those BBs did during the war.  And finally you've got the last BBs to engage in a surface action at Surigo Straight (sp)

Gotta love the look of those clipper bows, even in high seas

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The more the merrier.  God I love the lines on the clipper bow Design.
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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2015, 06:52:21 AM »
At least go with the BBs that fit best with the game Arlo :)

USS California and the other clipper bow BBs.  Then you've got Pearl covered as well as all the shore bombardment those BBs did during the war.  And finally you've got the last BBs to engage in a surface action at Surigo Straight (sp)

Gotta love the look of those clipper bows, even in high seas

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Which version of the California gets modeled?


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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2015, 10:55:58 AM »
Which version of the California gets modeled?

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2015, 12:26:04 PM »
Far too easy to sink the battle groups. Even a noob like me has done it and survived. They need more picket ships further out at least or remove the grog barrels from  gunner crew access.

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2015, 01:22:23 PM »
Honestly I think "other" CVs and BBs are a pretty dang good idea. :aok
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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2015, 10:56:39 PM »
Far too easy to sink the battle groups. Even a noob like me has done it and survived.

  Not if someone is in a manned gun.  A group of us was trying to kill a CV a couple of weeks ago, and a couple of good gunners in manned guns kept knocking our planes down.

 
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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2015, 11:00:19 PM »
Which version of the California gets modeled?

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2 as the Pearl version is just one day, the other is the one that did all the damage.   Throw in the West Virginia with the twin 16 inch turrets too.  She scored on her first shot at a Japanese BB.  Talk about payback :)
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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2015, 07:08:10 PM »
What makes a clipper bow, well a clipper bow?

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2015, 07:38:17 PM »
The shape.


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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2015, 07:45:31 PM »
2 as the Pearl version is just one day, the other is the one that did all the damage.   Throw in the West Virginia with the twin 16 inch turrets too.  She scored on her first shot at a Japanese BB.  Talk about payback :)

What one class of BB would you pare it all down to? Bear in mind, the Nagato had 16" guns. The ships won't be identical (USN, IJN, RN, etc.).
Should we try to balance the firepower of the main batteries somewhat, though? Individual gun range and power, number of guns, guns to bear side fore and aft, armor?

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2015, 08:08:38 PM »
What one class of BB would you pare it all down to? Bear in mind, the Nagato had 16" guns. The ships won't be identical (USN, IJN, RN, etc.).
Should we try to balance the firepower of the main batteries somewhat, though? Individual gun range and power, number of guns, guns to bear side fore and aft, armor?

I'm sure that others would look at it in terms of sea battles but in my ideal AH world it would be jeep carriers, destroyers and destroyer escorts along with the pre-war BBs that were used for supporting the invasion forces.

But that's more the MA world.  I suppose for events having fast carriers, BBs, cruisers and destroyers would make more sense.  I suppose the Washington, South Dakota type BBs and similar Japanese versions along with Japanese carriers would open things up.
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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2015, 06:40:53 AM »
Rather than Bismark, how about Scharnhorst and Gneisenau for the German fleet, alternatives for British could be Repulse/Renown or Queen Elizabeth class?  Illustrious is a definite for the British carrier.

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Re: Two More CVs, Four Battleships
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2015, 08:14:04 AM »
Rather than Bismark, how about Scharnhorst and Gneisenau for the German fleet, alternatives for British could be Repulse/Renown or Queen Elizabeth class?  Illustrious is a definite for the British carrier.
Battlecruisers don't stand up to battleships very well.

I suspect Arlo's goal was to suggest a list of BBs that were, relatively, equal.  I do think the California would fit that better than the South Dakota.  If we were to get a single BB to add the option of a BB centered fleet in addition to our CV centered fleet the obvious choices are South Dakota or Iowa classes.  If HTC wanted to bite off a bit more and introduce a new DD and CA at the same time then Yamato or Nagato class might work with a Takao class CA and some Akizuki class DDs as escorts.

If DDs as player controlled units ever happen I'd hope for the initial two to be Fletcher class and Akizuki class.
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