Open carry Texas

[Someguy63]

Yet again, your arguments are all based on fear. A gun that is hidden is no different than a gun that is openly viewable; the only difference is you don't know it's there, which is honestly a fairly childish approach to life in general. Object permanence is something most children learn within the first two years of life - whether you can see a gun or not does not change what it is capable of.

Therefore, your argument really isn't about guns, it's about your fear of knowing there are things that can harm you.

Carrying guns openly is perfectly normal in the majority of the world - our Western idealization of society is the minority.

Guns save plenty of lives. The problem is the MSM tends to not showcase those stories as they don't fit into the "guns are scary and evil" agenda: http://www.gunssavelives.net

If you think of the nature of our evolution and social habits of humans and other species you will know that to carry a weapon openly in public possibly suggests an assertive dominance or even aggression over the other specimen in the area.

That is how fear has evolved. It is natural to have those that fear. And I have every right to fear because I don't know every madman, idiot and such that could be out there. Despite whether the general idea is that "he won't do anything to harm me"

[PR3D4TOR]

Now put an Arabic man in the pic with the gun how would your view change? If not you the general public? It's brilliant how people know how to attempt and work your interpretations of things.

Well, I'm not a racist. I can't speak for the general public, but that's kind of the issue here. Does the general public have the right to dictate behavior based solely on irrational fears? Is that right?

[Wiley]

Well, I'm not a racist. I can't speak for the general public, but that's kind of the issue here. Does the general public have the right to dictate behavior based solely on irrational fears? Is that right?

Happens all the time.  Take any controversial topic, there is a sizable portion of people who stand one way or the other based on irrationalitly.

Wiley.

[PR3D4TOR]

Scary? Not particularly.  Does your local whole foods come under attack on a regular enough basis you feel you might need a rifle to defend yourself there?  Starting to think some peoples' shopping experiences vary widely from mine.

Wiley.

Probably not. But again, that's not the issue here. The issue is whether seeing a gun should distress people to the point of collectively limiting other people's freedoms.

Did anyone notice that the woman in that picture is also carrying? You just don't see the rifle as clearly behind her body. Why is concealed carry more "acceptable" than open carry? Just because you don't see the weapon? Out of sight out of mind?

[Someguy63]

Well, I'm not a racist. I can't speak for the general public, but that's kind of the issue here. Does the general public have the right to dictate behavior based solely on irrational fears? Is that right?

No, not if the fear was irrational. But in this case...

[Someguy63]

Probably not. But again, that's not the issue here. The issue is whether seeing a gun should distress people to the point of collectively limiting other people's freedoms.

Did anyone notice that the woman in that picture is also carrying? You just don't see the rifle as clearly behind her body. Why is concealed carry more "acceptable" than open carry? Just because you don't see the weapon? Out of sight out of mind?

If you think of the nature of our evolution and social habits of humans and other species you will know that to carry a weapon openly in public possibly suggests an assertive dominance or even aggression over the other specimen in the area.

That is how fear has evolved. It is natural to have those that fear. And I have every right to fear because I don't know every madman, idiot and such that could be out there. Despite whether the general idea is that "he won't do anything to harm me"

[PR3D4TOR]

No, not if the fear was irrational. But in this case...

In Syria it was the opposite you know. I was the white guy in a Muslim Arab country. I guess they're just better people.

[Someguy63]

In Syria it was the opposite you know. I was the white guy in a Muslim Arab country. I guess they're just better people.

I was speaking of our nation on this thing not the Arabic man in the picture.

[PR3D4TOR]

Ok, please elaborate on the problem?

[Wiley]

Probably not. But again, that's not the issue here. The issue is whether seeing a gun should distress people to the point of collectively limiting other people's freedoms.

The issue is whether or not it DOES distress people.  Doesn't matter whether it should or not.

As to concealed vs open, bluntly put yes, out of sight means it's not an issue.  You've got it available without announcing to the world you've got a weapon and making yourself a target.

Wiley.

[Someguy63]

Ok, please elaborate on the problem?

What Wiley said.

It all goes back to how we work. Guns suggest dominance and aggression when carried openly as I said, that's how things work here on Earth.

[Skuzzy]

Why should this be scary to anyone?

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Because the Target's here do not allow guns on their premises.

[Skyyr]

If you think of the nature of our evolution and social habits of humans and other species you will know that to carry a weapon openly in public possibly suggests an assertive dominance or even aggression over the other specimen in the area.

That is how fear has evolved. It is natural to have those that fear. And I have every right to fear because I don't know every madman, idiot and such that could be out there. Despite whether the general idea is that "he won't do anything to harm me"

It is ironic that you quote evolution and social habits as a argument against carrying guns. You do realize that survival of the fittest and outclassing one's competitors are some of the main factors that dictate survival according to evolution, right? Every one of those arguments is pro-gun.

Correlation does not imply causation, however, and that is not why carrying weapons is or should be allowed. It is done for a much deeper reason seated in personal liberty.

I noticed you ended your argument that you have "every right to fear" - please show me where evolution cared once for anything's right to fear.

[PR3D4TOR]

Because the Target's here do not allow guns on their premises.

True, but that's kind of a circular argument. Akin to guns are illegal because they're scary - guns are scary because they're illegal.

[Skyyr]

The issue is whether or not it DOES distress people.  Doesn't matter whether it should or not.

As to concealed vs open, bluntly put yes, out of sight means it's not an issue.  You've got it available without announcing to the world you've got a weapon and making yourself a target.

Wiley.

Your personal rights end at the tip of your neighbor's nose. Your "right" to fear does not allow your fear to supersede their right to own a weapon, just as their (hypothetical) right to fear your ability to reproduce (and potentially be a rapist) does not supersede your right to have and raise a family.