Greatest fighter ever built besides the p39

[PR3D4TOR]

So... I'm not free to criticize people who argue from a position of ignorance?

And I notice you still haven't answered my question.

[Zimme83]

Yes u can. But it is a waste of time. Im not gonna argue about my right to express myself, either we discuss the F-35 or the conversation is over.

[PR3D4TOR]

Ok, then please answer the question about that report you linked to: Do you understand what the report says and what in that report do you find worthy of criticism?

[Zimme83]

Both the very low sustained turn performance and the very low weight margin is causes of concern.

[PR3D4TOR]

Is this the part you're concerned with?

The program announced an intention to change
performance specifications for the F-35A, reducing turn
performance from 5.3 to 4.6 sustained g’s and extending
the time for acceleration from 0.8 Mach to 1.2 Mach by
8 seconds. These changes were due to the results of air
vehicle performance and flying qualities evaluations.
• Discoveries included:
-- Delayed disconnects during air refueling required the
program to implement restrictions on the F-35A fleet
and conduct additional testing of the air refueling
capability. The program added instrumentation to
isolate root causes.
-- Horizontal tail surfaces are experiencing higher
than expected temperatures during sustained
high‑speed / high‑altitude flight, resulting in
delamination and scorching of the surface coatings
and structure. All variants were restricted from
operations outside of a reduced envelope until the
test team added instrumentation to the tailbooms to
monitor temperatures on the tail surfaces. The program
scheduled modification of one flight sciences aircraft of
each variant with new skin coatings on the horizontal
tail to permit flight testing in the currently restricted part
of the high‑speed / high‑altitude flight envelope. The
test team is adding more flight test instrumentation to
help quantify the impacts of the tail heating to support
necessary design changes. The program scheduled
modifications on one aircraft (AF-2) to be completed in
early 2013 to allow flight testing of the new skin design
on the horizontal tails to proceed.

[Zimme83]

I am not concerned at all, i dont have to pay for the plane.

[Zimme83]

No one that are even the slightest interested in the F-35 have missed the issues around the development program. All I did was saying that if its true that there are problems with the basic design then the F-35 have serious issues. I did not said that it was the case, other people did, as shown in the links. If u have problem with that then u should avoid the internet, for your own good.

[PR3D4TOR]

See Rule #4

[Zimme83]

So your arguments is that the issues with the F-35 should not be discussed because it hurts the program and because they doesnt exsist...
It doesnt even matter if i post a, in your eyes, reliable source or not. People are talking about the issues. Media, aviation magazines etc, even pilots within the U.S Armed Forces.  U know it as well as i do. I just said that we of course dont know but if it is true then the F-35 has serious issues.

[PR3D4TOR]

What I don't like is people who don't know what they're talking about talk about the things they know nothing about... Regardless of what they're talking about. The F-35, vaccinations, climate change, chemtrails, moon landings, reindeer herding, whatever...

I have never heard anything negative about the F-35 from pilots who have flown the aircraft. Pilots from USAF, USN, Marines, RAF. If you know of an F-35 pilot that has expressed anything but praise and awe of the capabilities of the F-35 I would very much like to hear/read about it.

[Zimme83]

Test pilots etc arent reliable sources either, if they had issues with the F-35; they would not talk about it in public.

[PR3D4TOR]

I didn't mention test pilots. The F-35 is in service with the USAF, USN and Marines and have been for quite a while now. They're not combat operational, but are being flown and evaluated by military pilots.

Here's an Aussie pilot's impression:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DfHXCbQ0CI


Nellis getting their F-35 for training:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfussT-U6Bk

[Latrobe]

If a 109F4 got into a 1 on 1 fight with an F-35, the 109F4 would win in under 4 seconds. 

[PR3D4TOR]

That's a given. The 109F is the best fighter of all time and ever.

[PR3D4TOR]

Interview with Marine Corps pilots:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej8rEYrMQRc#