Graphic anomolies

[DREDIOCK]

Water in particular. Doesnt seem to matter what the video settings are, whats enabled/disabled etc
5 and 6 are offline screenshots
1 and 2 are online beta arena

[DREDIOCK]

My DX file

[NatCigg]

Not sure where to post this but.  Video mem and used mem do not seem correct. I would like my used portion to be as high as possible.

Shadows off trees flutter a lot.

The pennant can get is the way of gun sights and any given vertical view.

[Skuzzy]

Water in particular. Doesnt seem to matter what the video settings are, whats enabled/disabled etc
5 and 6 are offline screenshots
1 and 2 are online beta arena

You could be running out of video RAM.  Windows XP is going to be more sensitive to that as it does not allow video cards to use any system RAM at all.

Try using the default field of view.  Set "Environment mapping" to "None".  check the option to disable post lighting and shadows as well.  That will reduce the video RAM requirements.

[Skuzzy]

Not sure where to post this but.  Video mem and used mem do not seem correct. I would like my used portion to be as high as possible.

Shadows off trees flutter a lot.

The pennant can get is the way of gun sights and any given vertical view.

Need a DXDIAG output.  With the default settings, the game uses just over 900MB of video RAM, if the video card supports all the options.

[NatCigg]

   Operating System: Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_r9.150322-1500)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
       System Model: XPS 8700
               BIOS: A08
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
             Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16336MB RAM
          Page File: 2802MB used, 15964MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.17415 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 745
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1382&SUBSYS_106510DE&REV_A2
     Display Memory: 12152 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3984 MB
      Shared Memory: 8167 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Dell E228WFP
      Monitor Model: DELL E228WFP
         Monitor Id: DELD015
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.3266 (English)
     Driver Version: 9.18.13.3266
        DDI Version: 11
     Feature Levels: 11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.3
Graphics Preemption: DMA
 Compute Preemption: DMA
           Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
     Power P-states: Not Supported
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 2/16/2014 05:50:20, 18225104 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-50C2-11CF-AC7F-68301FC2C435}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x1382
          SubSys ID: 0x106510DE
        Revision ID: 0x00A2
 Driver Strong Name: oem64.inf:0f066de3eb4857cf:Section068:9.18.13.3266:pci\ven_10de&dev_1382&subsys_106510de
      DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: HID-compliant consumer control device
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0xFEEB, 0xDEEF
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Dell USB Wired Multimedia Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2112
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Dell USB Wired Multimedia Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2112
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Logitech Extreme 3D
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x1
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek ST290 Pro
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0460
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x8C26
| Matching Device ID: USB\ROOT_HUB20
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 7/24/2014 11:28:38, 419648 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 12/10/2014 02:11:45, 27480 bytes
|
+-+ Generic USB Hub
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x8087, 0x8000
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0002
| | Matching Device ID: USB\Class_09
| | Service: usbhub
| | Driver: usbhub.sys, 7/24/2014 11:28:38, 419648 bytes
| | Driver: usbd.sys, 12/10/2014 02:11:45, 27480 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2112
| Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_KEYBOARD
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/4/2014 02:54:47, 32256 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 11/4/2014 15:25:09, 59712 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC063
| Matching Device ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_MOUSE
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 11/4/2014 02:54:47, 30208 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 11/4/2014 15:25:09, 51008 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 867.3 GB
Total Space: 941.1 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST1000DM003-1ER162

      Drive: D:
      Model: PLDS DVD+-RW DH-16AES
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.03.9600.16384 (English), 8/22/2013 04:46:35, 164352 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core processor PCI Express x16 Controller - 0C01
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0C01&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&08
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 11:28:35, 280384 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C02&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\iaStorA.sys, 12.08.0000.1016 (English), 8/2/2013 13:40:04, 644968 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series  PCI Express Root Port #8 - 8C1E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C1E&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_D5\3&11583659&0&E7
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 11:28:35, 280384 bytes

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_0C\010000000000000000
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\Rt630x64.sys, 8.18.0621.2013 (English), 6/21/2013 21:35:14, 816344 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\RtNicProp64.dll, 1.02.0000.0006 (English), 6/21/2013 21:35:14, 74456 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) Z87 LPC Controller - 8C44
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C44&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&F8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.03.9600.16384 (English), 8/22/2013 08:43:49, 17248 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series  SMBus Controller - 8C22
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C22&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n (2.4GHz)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_0032&SUBSYS_02091028&REV_01\4&9A48CD4&0&00E7
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athwbx.sys, 10.00.0000.0260 (English), 8/8/2013 14:15:44, 3837440 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys, 6.03.9600.16384 (English), 8/22/2013 07:39:00, 24576 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series  PCI Express Root Port #1 - 8C10
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C10&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_D5\3&11583659&0&E0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 11:28:35, 280384 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 0100 (Microsoft)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C31&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&A0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\UCX01000.SYS, 6.03.9600.17393 (English), 10/7/2014 02:54:45, 189248 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\USBXHCI.SYS, 6.03.9600.17795 (English), 4/16/2015 02:17:07, 325464 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FBC&SUBSYS_106510DE&REV_A1\4&519621C&0&0108
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 07:45:39, 76800 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C20&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&D8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 07:45:39, 76800 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 4th Gen Core processor DRAM Controller - 0C00
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0C00&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C3A&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\TeeDriverx64.sys, 10.00.0000.1126 (English), 2/19/2014 22:51:12, 116736 bytes
   Driver: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\DeviceMetadataStore\EN\3f3ca95b-3978-4168-b47b-5444f42d6c89.devicemetadata-ms, 2/19/2014 22:51:12, 938 bytes
   Driver: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\DeviceMetadataStore\EN\46a6fdbe-c823-4579-bab6-35f67e01f793.devicemetadata-ms, 2/19/2014 22:51:12, 833 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\WdfCoInstaller01011.dll, 1.11.9200.16384 (English), 2/19/2014 22:51:12, 1795952 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series  USB EHCI #1 - 8C26
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C26&SUBSYS_05B71028&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.03.9600.17195 (English), 12/10/2014 02:11:45, 89944 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.03.9600.17195 (English), 12/10/2014 02:11:45, 440664 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.03.9600.17238 (English), 7/24/2014 11:28:38, 419648 bytes

     Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1382&SUBSYS_106510DE&REV_A2\4&519621C&0&0008
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 9.18.0013.3266 (English), 2/16/2014 05:50:20, 250144 bytes
 
deleted a bunch for 10,000 character limit, if you need it ill post it.

[NatCigg]

currently AH II shows Vid Mem 4095.0M used 6.7M

AH III alpha shows Vid mem 3072.0M used 422.4M

edit: changed AHIII settings back to default and now used shows 446.3M

edit: changed max texture back to default 4096 number from 1024 and now used shows 852.3. and game looks better .

[Skuzzy]

currently AH II shows Vid Mem 4095.0M used 6.7M

AH III alpha shows Vid mem 3072.0M used 422.4M

The amount used will be based off the game settings.  The amount used does not work in AHII.

Are you using the Alpha game defaults?  I have attached a screenshot from my home system which has everything set to defaults.  Look at the video memory used (940MB).  It should be pretty consistent from system to system if the video resolution is set to 1920x1080.

The game will use what it needs to use.

[NatCigg]

i left video res alone at 1680 x 1050

[Skuzzy]

i left video res alone at 1680 x 1050

That is why your memory usage is less.

[NatCigg]

I set field of view to 100 and flying in game my used memory is over 1000. frame rates around low 30,s. my default environment map is 1. if I increase environment map frame rates drop. full environment map and frame rates are in the teens.

[Bizman]

NatCigg, your problem is this:

    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745

Although Nvidia says "Its powerful, ultra-efficient next-gen architecture makes the GTX 745 the weapon of choice for serious gaming", it's a low end low budget OEM card intended for people who have only a slight idea what the technical terms mean. So it's got a whopping 4 GB of memory, wow! And it's got the second fastest base core clock of the entire GTX 700 series, double-wow! What many people don't realize is that the memory is of the DDR3 type which is s-l-o-w and was up to date in video cards about a decade ago! Compare your card with the more powerful ones in this chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series#GeForce_700_.287xx.29_series, especially "Clock speeds/Memory", "Fillrate/Pixel" and "Processing Power" to find out the main differences in performance between cheaper and more expensive card models.

[Chilli]

Bizman,

That explains a lot.  The 700 series do have other added features that are desirable, but I had no clue that there was such a big difference even within that series, thinking they were mid range.  I have a 400 series (used) that has DDR5, with only 1 GB of RAM, that is doing fine.

This is indeed sticky worthy for those who are about to upgrade (and I think there will be a great deal that do).  They will not because of performance issues (since most will be able to play with the eye candy off), but most will just want to stretch their legs, only to find they have not gained that many "leg humps" as anticipated.

I fit into that category, so even equipped with all the current information of what my gpu is capable of now, I will wait and look for the best budget solution recommended.  Currently, 780Ti is NOT worth 2 car payments for me.  (Just my driving profession calculator engaged)  However, the GTX 750 (or) Ti do fit into my budget category.

My best advice as I hope to follow, is to WAIT and SEE the finished product.  I am so psyched that open Alpha is here 

[Bizman]

Yet another thing worth knowing about video card model numbers: In the nVidia GTX### cards the first digit (hundreds) tells the generation, the second (tens) tells the relative performance level within that generation.

A new generation mostly means support for new protocols, new ways of doing things. Some of the new ideas may never make their way to any games. That means that games that don't use the latest graphical gimmicks don't benefit much from a newer GPU of the same performance level.

A comparison of NatCigg's GTX 745 and Chilli's GTX 465 show that the latter is a better performer despite of being almost four years older.

The same numbering idea can be found in AMD Radeon cards, too. Look at the "tens".

[bustr]

GTX 745 1G\4G
RAM - DDR3
Data Paths - 128bit
Band Width - 28.8 Gbyte sec.

GTX 465 1G
RAM - GDDR5
Data Paths - 256bit
Band Width - 102.5 Gbyte sec.