Yes another bomb and bail complaint

[1Cane]

 This morning with less than 100 players online I detected what I thought would be bombers heading for strats.  Upped in a fighter and tried for an intercept course.  I was too late reaching the bombers before they dropped their load.  But I did have visual on the bogey.  So continued climb and pursued for at least a sector if not a sector and 1/2.  After finally reaching 27,000 I was 5k behind buffs when they bailed.
 What a monumental waste of time!  I feel that if you have icon range on a set of buffs you should get the kill.  This has got to be one of the biggest FU"s in the game.
 So what are the options
 Ignore any strat raider?
 Spend countless hours climbing to a target that bails out when you close on him?
 Spend countless hours trying to intercept before they get to the strats and maybe they will bail out before reaching target

[Zoney]

Although annoying, I have changed my state of mind from getting angry at them, to feeling sorry for them when they do this.

[Getback]

I just don't understand this, they reached their objective, so now a good fight can be had.

[Wizz]

I just don't understand this, they reached their objective, so now a good fight can be had.

It takes a lot of reps in buffs to gain the confidence needed to want to fight. Gunning is not easy. For such a run as described above there is a lot of doing nothing for a long time. The biggest impact players like this feel they have is to destroy as many strategic targets as possible in the time they have.

By intercepting the nme buff after the drop fighting you would have been wasted time in his mind because he obviously lacks the skill to shoot you down. That is the difference between little boy buffs and big boys. Obviously the right thing to do would have been allow you to engage.

What I have come to notice is how a player climbs tells a lot about how to handle him. Sometimes instead of running its good to throttle back and bring the fight to the enemy before he has an alt advantage. When you rush a player in buffs it sets a high tempo. The worst thing a buff pilot can do is allow the nme to control the pace of the fight.

To you Cane all can say is tough luck on all that time wasted. Nothing will change except how you handle it next time. I would just encourage you to keep defending strategic targets and fighting your nme with all you got!

[DmonSlyr]

It takes a lot of reps in buffs to gain the confidence needed to want to fight. Gunning is not easy. For such a run as described above there is a lot of doing nothing for a long time. The biggest impact players like this feel they have is to destroy as many strategic targets as possible in the time they have.

By intercepting the nme buff after the drop fighting you would have been wasted time in his mind because he obviously lacks the skill to shoot you down. That is the difference between little boy buffs and big boys. Obviously the right thing to do would have been allow you to engage.

What I have come to notice is how a player climbs tells a lot about how to handle him. Sometimes instead of running its good to throttle back and bring the fight to the enemy before he has an alt advantage. When you rush a player in buffs it sets a high tempo. The worst thing a buff pilot can do is allow the nme to control the pace of the fight.

To you Cane all can say is tough luck on all that time wasted. Nothing will change except how you handle it next time. I would just encourage you to keep defending strategic targets and fighting your nme with all you got!

That's BS, in real war you don't bail after you bomb a base. Nor do you fly without friendlies perfecting you. Bomber gunning is the easiest way to shoot in the game. Besides lancs, the other ones take all your ammo to kill and easily can kill in seconds if they have good aim.

Bailing after bombing should be very punishable for the bomber pilot. It's not the defenders fault for climbing to defend his territory. You've essentially given up the point to even try to defend anymore in the first place. So you and your buds can bomb away and bail like losers because they can't handle an enemy plane attacking them. Too bad, they should have had a fighter escort.

I agree with cane, this is a major disgrace to the pilot who takes the time to engage in the attacker.

Bombers should be more difficult to gun with if they are going to be as strong as they are, and there needs to be a system that hurts this bomb and bail mentality. It's not justified by the defending team what so ever.

[Getback]

I've bombed strats and then made it home in one crippled bomber. Like 9s says, if you ain't dying you ain't having fun.

This is hard for some to believe but I often think by engaging a con the joy and opportunity I'm giving them. If they shoot me down I know they had fun. If I shoot them down, I had fun and actually fun both ways.

[icepac]

The most epic flights I've had are making it home after bombing deep into enemy territory.

Perhaps we could have a "hall of shame" thread in the films and screenshots sub-forum............if we can promise to simply title your post what happened without naming names.

[Mongoose]

Although annoying, I have changed my state of mind from getting angry at them, to feeling sorry for them when they do this.

Yep.  The are missing out on the fun this game should be.

[lyric1]

If they bail all damage done on the bomb run is instantly repaired.

[Volron]

Not sure why they are bothering to fly back really.  Would be MUCH quicker to bail after your bombs hit, rather than to attempt flying back only to bail when someone comes for you.   That being said...

Someone said gunning is not easy?





While these are from a small time ago, still applies.

If any bomb and bail-er are calling themselves a bomber pilot, now THAT's a joke.

[guncrasher]

i was once in a longer range mission.  saw a fighter come up to intercept me, after 20 or so minutes of him chasing me and not attacking, i got bored, so I bailed.

oh welll it happens.


semp

[Getback]

i was once in a longer range mission.  saw a fighter come up to intercept me, after 20 or so minutes of him chasing me and not attacking, i got bored, so I bailed.

oh welll it happens.


semp

I have that happen quite a bit. They are looking for that perfect angle. Generally I start climbing and turning. I took one guy so high his plane couldn't hardly climb.

[Traveler]

Agree with the OP, it should be the same for fighters as well as bombers, any points or perks earned during your flight should be lost if you can't RTB.   The awards should come only if you return to a friendly base.

[Lusche]

If you don't get any points or perks when getting killed, player will be much less willing to take any risks at all. I don't you'd like the impact of that on gameplay...

[Traveler]

If you don't get any points or perks when getting killed, player will be much less willing to take any risks at all. I don't you'd like the impact of that on game play...

I doubt HTC will make any kind of change to the strategy of the game, hasn't changed since the beginning. but would be interesting and because nothing strategy wise ever changes in the game we will never know what type of impact such a change would have on game play.  But it would make it more real world and solve the bomb and bail issue.  You can only speak for your self, as I for my self,  I know I would find it more of a challenge where as you stated would be less willing to take any risks, but that's just you and me.  I know many on my squad would love it.  I'm just looking for any type of change to the strategy of Aces High, because it's getting a little old.  If in fact there was a negative impact they could always change it back.  Or even better, create a new arena like the MA with the new strategy.