I am beginnng to see red

[Oldman731]

The same way John Q Citizen knows how to put in a new electric panel they bought from Home Depot.

Clearly you have not recently read the instructions from a Home Depot electrical panel!

- oldman

[FLS]

The type of airplane has nothing to do with the crash.  The arrogance of the kit builders is.

A lot of pilots have stalled stretching the glide. It may be an error of inexperience but I don't know what options were available.

The silicone stopped the fuel flow but the pilot crashed because he stalled. That has nothing to do with kit builders.

[pembquist]

Clearly you have not recently read the instructions from a Home Depot electrical panel!

- oldman

They have instructions?

[WaffenVW]

I see, yes i saw the picture of the girl as well; they must have pulled it for being too inflammatory I guess

Am I the UK gentleman he's referring to? If so I feel the need to point out that I spell color without the 'u'. And I did not see any picture of a girl. Not that it would have made any difference.

[Vulcan]

Holy cow this is the actual plane, look at the paintjob /geez!

Australian paintjob?

[Randy1]

A lot of pilots have stalled stretching the glide. It may be an error of inexperience but I don't know what options were available.

The silicone stopped the fuel flow but the pilot crashed because he stalled. That has nothing to do with kit builders.

We talking about another crash.  The statement still holds.  The builder thought he knew how to build and fly a plane.

[Skyguns MKII]

As a recently certified aircraft mechanic, this makes my shake my head 

You might as well put your kid in a microwave and sue the maker...
   

[FLS]

We talking about another crash.  The statement still holds.  The builder thought he knew how to build and fly a plane.

Thanks I missed that.

I still don't see how, in your link, the unlicensed pilot in the over - loaded airplane represents kit builders.

[Zimme83]

Just FYI:
The Experimental category is pretty much the same in Europe as in the US.
This is an experimental:


As for home built planes: You need to have an approved supervisor/advisor who follows the entire building process and without a green light from him that your work is up to standard the plane will not fly.

[icepac]

I'm not aware of any threaded bolt or coupling that uses RTV as a sealant.

Not only do blobs squeeze in........but any threaded connection usually backs out.

Also..... the  RTV changes the torque reading either higher or lower because it can either lubricate the threads or cause binding.

[saggs]

I'm not aware of any threaded bolt or coupling that uses RTV as a sealant.

Not only do blobs squeeze in........but any threaded connection usually backs out.

Also..... the  RTV changes the torque reading either higher or lower because it can either lubricate the threads or cause binding.

Yup... it's pretty much maintenance 101.  Even fuel lube and o-ring lube can cause issues if you get carried away with it.

I'll say it again, it comes down to personal responsibility.  If you decide to take it upon yourself to home build an airplane, then you should also be responsible enough to learn what you need to learn in order to do so.  It's not like it's that difficult to find the information.  Heck buy a copy of AC 43.13, the FAA AMT handbook, and FAR AMT. and you'll have answers to all your questions.  The EAA also has an awesome website with tons of webinars for learning sheetmetal, composite, wood, rigging and every other building skill.  Making friends with a trustworthy A&P pr an EAA tech adviser is also smart, but also verify everything they tell you. (I know a few A&Ps I wouldn't trust to work on a Tonka Truck.)

Bottom line is to plead ignorance in today's society where information can be literally at your fingertips (ie there is a AC43.13, and FAR smartphone app) is simply not a valid excuse.  It's terrible that people had to die because of what can only be described as willful ignorance.

[colmbo]

We talking about another crash.  The statement still holds.  The builder thought he knew how to build and fly a plane.

But Randy the attitude has nothing to do with him building the airplane.  I've seen just as much shoddy maintenance from people who have never built an airplane and own production aircraft. (and have a couple of flights that ended in emergency landings due to their maintenance practices --- and no it wasn't me doing the maintenance  )

[Randy1]

But Randy the attitude has nothing to do with him building the airplane.  I've seen just as much shoddy maintenance from people who have never built an airplane and own production aircraft. (and have a couple of flights that ended in emergency landings due to their maintenance practices --- and no it wasn't me doing the maintenance  )

In the nuclear power plant business, you have to constantlly guard aginist assumptions.  The worst of which is the assumption made without conscious thought.  In other words making a decision without being aware that you made a decision.

[FLS]

In the nuclear power plant business, you have to constantly guard against assumptions.  The worst of which is the assumption made without conscious thought.  In other words making a decision without being aware that you made a decision.

In other words avoid rushing to conclusions. That's good advice.   

[pembquist]

In the nuclear power plant business, you have to constantlly guard aginist assumptions.  The worst of which is the assumption made without conscious thought.  In other words making a decision without being aware that you made a decision.

Why checklists are great.