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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2016, 04:25:10 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2016, 05:36:58 PM »
vegans don't live longer. There is no scientific proof. They also suffer significant issues related to vitamin b12 deficiencies. And vegan b12 supplements are not real b12, the only way you can get real b12 is from non-vegan supplements.

B12 deficiency takes a while to identify, so by the time you have noticed the damage is already done.

It also affects neurological function, which explains why most vegans end up fruitcakes.

I've always thought it was funny that HUNTERS and gatherers would decide to suddenly become gatherers only. Humans are raging carnivores. When humans cannot find raw meat they eat vegans. That's how it's always been.
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2016, 06:34:17 PM »
I've always thought it was funny that HUNTERS and gatherers would decide to suddenly become gatherers only. Humans are raging carnivores. When humans cannot find raw meat they eat vegans. That's how it's always been.

last gf was vegan, I ate her.  she loved it.


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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2016, 07:14:22 PM »
  This is an old remedy that a friend taught me!


   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9OqUuA6a0

   My doc told me to take 2 women and call him in the mourning!


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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2016, 07:20:46 PM »
dont forget to rest!  even crabs sleep! workouts are nothing but destruction without the recuperation.  :old:  and does not sleep help the mind sort a days events with a self induced paralysis on the muscles?  :headscratch:

just sayin'  :salute

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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2016, 05:01:15 AM »
dont forget to rest!  even crabs sleep! workouts are nothing but destruction without the recuperation.  :old:  and does not sleep help the mind sort a days events with a self induced paralysis on the muscles?  :headscratch:

just sayin'  :salute

This... Light excersise is one thing when not overburdened but any more physical repetition I'll blow apart at the seams  :rofl  :uhoh   :bhead
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2016, 05:35:23 AM »
If you play golf chances are you're a virtual piggy five one or dorka pilot and you've also dabbled in fly fishing. It's a way for the elderly to get exercise and synthesize vitamin D without dislocating any joints.

I just turned 50. 

Here's a video of my swing analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqX1poBVNQU

Never been fly fishing.  That is for lakes and rivers.  Real men fish in oceans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYlbX_2aB2M

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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2016, 06:58:54 AM »
I play a game called Aces High after a session being unruly everything is awesome.

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2016, 11:54:49 AM »
From the OP description Krabs it sounds as though the medical people are laying the blame for your infections solely at the feet of "stress".  I often wonder if this is the only word they know when it comes to diagnosis.  I also wonder why they haven't thrown various stress related medications into you by this point, for better or worse, if stress is so bad that it's responsible for infections developing all on their own.  I'd get a 2nd and a 3rd opinion in your shoes at this point.  I was sick for over a year and a half, after never losing a day to sick leave in my life in my late 30s, and got the whole "it's stress, you have a very stressful and dangerous job etc etc", when it turned out I in fact had a very difficult to diagnose disease (SLE/Lupus) in men which often just gets overlooked. 

The advice about 3 balanced squares and exercise is very important regardless of what the cause of your health problem, without them you really don't stand a fighting chance IMO.

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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2016, 06:24:03 PM »
From the OP description Krabs it sounds as though the medical people are laying the blame for your infections solely at the feet of "stress".  I often wonder if this is the only word they know when it comes to diagnosis.  I also wonder why they haven't thrown various stress related medications into you by this point, for better or worse, if stress is so bad that it's responsible for infections developing all on their own.  I'd get a 2nd and a 3rd opinion in your shoes at this point.  I was sick for over a year and a half, after never losing a day to sick leave in my life in my late 30s, and got the whole "it's stress, you have a very stressful and dangerous job etc etc", when it turned out I in fact had a very difficult to diagnose disease (SLE/Lupus) in men which often just gets overlooked. 

The advice about 3 balanced squares and exercise is very important regardless of what the cause of your health problem, without them you really don't stand a fighting chance IMO.

This came to mind and warrented my search for a GP - I am going to need one regardless since I am going under the knife in the near future
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2016, 07:58:45 PM »
I'm surprised you don't  have one already - I don't know exactly how it works in the USA compared to up here, but again, I will bet that the 1st doctor you see if you bring up stress as the cause of your health problems, will immediately break out the pad and start with xanax and other benzo/etc type "anti stress" pills.  My advice is if you haven't been taking these, try to avoid them.  My mother was put on them, and it was hell getting her off of them.  While they CAN work, and in some cases, probably like yours where the doctors/health pros believe that stress is causing some major havoc such as you describe in your OP, it may be your best option unfortunately.  Just do a lot of research about whatever they try and give you on your own, and for god's sake, do NOT use any more than they prescribe, try and use LESS if anything. 

IMO I still think stress alone isn't likely to be responsible for your OP description of what's happening, contribute yes, but primary root cause - the odds don't favor it IMO, and I've had plenty of time in the last years to read and research a lot about similar things.  Make sure they do complete blood/urinalysis panels, test anti nucleic antibody for connective tissue disease indicators, and really pay attention to your SED rate in the tests.  IMO what you've posted, trouble sleeping and frequent infections is pointing RIGHT at a immune system disease or problem. 

I had similar issues as you've described,  + others, and was told everything in the book from 4 different GPs before finding the 5th who discovered that it was SLE/Lupus.  In fact, the US/Canadian average for patients with such immunodefiecient type diseases is 2+ years and 3+ doctors before getting the correct diagnosis.  I can send you a lot of info to read about such things if you wish.  Also, I'm not saying you even HAVE any issue other than stress, just that based on experience of both reading and living in doctors offices/hospitals for years now, it would surprise me if that was the only problem. 

I've found you really have to take personal responsibility these days, and not just count on the doctors/nurses/etc to just "figure it all out" and "get it all right" - IMO it's as much on you to try and figure out wth is wrong with yourself as it is on them, but they are the gatekeepers to the tests and equipment needed, and if you're fortunate, with a good doc, he/she will have experience and good intuition as well, and will listen closely to your descriptions of what's been happening.  Krabs, be sure you have everything in point form written down when you talk to a GP, and accurately describe every problem and issue with the dates.  Also keep a record of what you're told in every meeting with any medical pro as well - I record mine, but some countries that isn't allowed, but you can always just take notes. 

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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2016, 02:33:29 AM »
How do you write all those paragraphs?
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« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2016, 10:10:01 AM »
edumacation, he haz one.     :old:
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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2016, 07:38:45 PM »
I'm surprised you don't  have one already - I don't know exactly how it works in the USA compared to up here, but again, I will bet that the 1st doctor you see if you bring up stress as the cause of your health problems, will immediately break out the pad and start with xanax and other benzo/etc type "anti stress" pills.  My advice is if you haven't been taking these, try to avoid them.  My mother was put on them, and it was hell getting her off of them.  While they CAN work, and in some cases, probably like yours where the doctors/health pros believe that stress is causing some major havoc such as you describe in your OP, it may be your best option unfortunately.  Just do a lot of research about whatever they try and give you on your own, and for god's sake, do NOT use any more than they prescribe, try and use LESS if anything. 

IMO I still think stress alone isn't likely to be responsible for your OP description of what's happening, contribute yes, but primary root cause - the odds don't favor it IMO, and I've had plenty of time in the last years to read and research a lot about similar things.  Make sure they do complete blood/urinalysis panels, test anti nucleic antibody for connective tissue disease indicators, and really pay attention to your SED rate in the tests.  IMO what you've posted, trouble sleeping and frequent infections is pointing RIGHT at a immune system disease or problem. 

I had similar issues as you've described,  + others, and was told everything in the book from 4 different GPs before finding the 5th who discovered that it was SLE/Lupus.  In fact, the US/Canadian average for patients with such immunodefiecient type diseases is 2+ years and 3+ doctors before getting the correct diagnosis.  I can send you a lot of info to read about such things if you wish.  Also, I'm not saying you even HAVE any issue other than stress, just that based on experience of both reading and living in doctors offices/hospitals for years now, it would surprise me if that was the only problem. 

I've found you really have to take personal responsibility these days, and not just count on the doctors/nurses/etc to just "figure it all out" and "get it all right" - IMO it's as much on you to try and figure out wth is wrong with yourself as it is on them, but they are the gatekeepers to the tests and equipment needed, and if you're fortunate, with a good doc, he/she will have experience and good intuition as well, and will listen closely to your descriptions of what's been happening.  Krabs, be sure you have everything in point form written down when you talk to a GP, and accurately describe every problem and issue with the dates.  Also keep a record of what you're told in every meeting with any medical pro as well - I record mine, but some countries that isn't allowed, but you can always just take notes.

Here in the states many practitioners "especially Florida" are complete crap. It has come to the point where typical retail stores like CVS have small clinics in them where they have a Nurse Practitioner that use hilarious diagnosis cards to make their decisions. This can be the case as well for many of the common "URGENT CARE" clinics. Finding a GP is one thing but finding that good GP for you is another. One of the greatest regrets of leaving Illinois was leaving the GP that has known me since I was little and was there from everything from Ear Tubes to referring me to another Doctor I required for whatever reason. Down here for 13 years and I cannot find anyone but an ENT that I can remotely trust...
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2016, 07:47:32 PM »
Crabby just check out my previous post and follow the instructions,it's a cant miss cure!



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