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Offline guncrasher

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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 10:25:42 AM »
japanese killed 100's of thousands.  and yet plenty of heroic pilot threads are posted here.


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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 12:07:42 PM »
Right, because a drone has never killed an innocent... Better get off that high horse, looks like he's tired....

I have not defended drones or anything else, U.S (and pretty much all other armed forces at war) have their fair share of innocent blood on their hand. But that was not the point.

I just think the word Hero is misplaced here. (And way overused.)
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 12:12:14 PM »
japanese killed 100's of thousands.  and yet plenty of heroic pilot threads are posted here.


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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 12:21:11 PM »
He sure is a hero to his folks back home, and that's all it takes for him to be a hero. That's the definition of a hero: That someone thinks you are one.
Doesn't matter if you think otherwise, or the rest of the world for that matter. And if you can't say something nice...
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 12:29:56 PM »
He sure is a hero to his folks back home, and that's all it takes for him to be a hero. That's the definition of a hero: That someone thinks you are one.
Doesn't matter if you think otherwise, or the rest of the world for that matter. And if you can't say something nice...

...Then I say whatever I want to say anyway.
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 02:24:06 PM »
Yes you've made that abundantly clear. And as Goethe put it, a man’s manners are a mirror in which he shows his portrait.
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 06:47:13 PM »
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Biblical... .. anything is possible in Palmyra;  cursed satanic place for gruesome first born babies sacrifice, haunted by dark forces,  home of the  Temple of Baal,  disciple of Satan cast on earth, Nephilin inbreed with humans; read the strong  warnings in  Torah, books of Kings and Jeremiah.
I would tell you more, but i'm playing Russian roulette with rule#14;  search Google news  Temple of Baal, and youTube  watch what's going on;
They are rebuilding  the Temple of Baal in Trafalgar Square / London and Time Square / New York , to be unveiled on April 19th ( first of 13 days blood sacrifice to the beast); watch the news over next 2 weeks;.... Amen :noid

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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2016, 10:55:29 PM »
Biblical... .. anything is possible in Palmyra;  cursed satanic place for gruesome first born babies sacrifice, haunted by dark forces,  home of the  Temple of Baal,  disciple of Satan cast on earth, Nephilin inbreed with humans; read the strong  warnings in  Torah, books of Kings and Jeremiah.
I would tell you more, but i'm playing Russian roulette with rule#14;  search Google news  Temple of Baal, and youTube  watch what's going on;
They are rebuilding  the Temple of Baal in Trafalgar Square / London and Time Square / New York , to be unveiled on April 19th ( first of 13 days blood sacrifice to the beast); watch the news over next 2 weeks;.... Amen :noid
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2016, 02:19:54 PM »
Was your response this succinct when the US Army first announced the courageous death f Pat Tillman? No matter. These men, and all like them, died in a foreign land fighting for their own countries ideals. The y are all heroes none may ever match, not just the ones in US colors, nor the ones with great stories.
I do not know who Pat Tillman is. I am sure that the Russian soldier was brave and died serving his country. Regardless and without diminishing the soldier's sacrifice, the whole story sounds like a cockup was turned around into a propaganda event. Lets say that the military had the option to knock on the soldier's parents door and tell them they bombed the F ouf of their son by mistake and assure them that they will thoroughly investigate the incident , OR tell them he died in an epic display of heroism and as a model son of the nation. Which will they choose?
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2016, 02:28:36 PM »
I do not know who Pat Tillman is. I am sure that the Russian soldier was brave and died serving his country. Regardless and without diminishing the soldier's sacrifice, the whole story sounds like a cockup was turned around into a propaganda event. Lets say that the military had the option to knock on the soldier's parents door and tell them they bombed the F ouf of their son by mistake and assure them that they will thoroughly investigate the incident , OR tell them he died in an epic display of heroism and as a model son of the nation. Which will they choose?

Either way, their son is dead.  No reason to believe it didn't happen as reported.  If it was altered to cover up friendly fire, at least his family's suffering won't be compounded by that knowledge.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2016, 03:01:24 PM »
Either way, their son is dead.  No reason to believe it didn't happen as reported.  If it was altered to cover up friendly fire, at least his family's suffering won't be compounded by that knowledge.

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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2016, 05:31:39 PM »
Either way, their son is dead.  No reason to believe it didn't happen as reported.  If it was altered to cover up friendly fire, at least his family's suffering won't be compounded by that knowledge.

So now everything that is reported should be taken at face value?
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2016, 05:59:33 PM »
Isis were not being stopped until the Russians got involved :old:

Isis is now retreating  :old:

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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2016, 06:02:47 PM »
Isis were not being stopped until the Russians got involved :old:

Isis is now retreating  :old:
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Re: Battle of Palmyra. Last words...
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2016, 10:48:43 PM »
So now everything that is reported should be taken at face value?

You're so right.  Every single story I've ever read was taken at face value.

Exactly what information do you have which leads you to believe the story was fabricated?   


I applaud your efforts, but one cannot have a rational conversation with irrational people.

Didn't take long to prove your point.
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