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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2016, 05:49:21 PM »
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2016, 07:48:56 PM »
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2016, 08:07:37 PM »
Same objection here: A very uneven matchup. At 20+ k no japanese fighters have a chance against the Americans, at 30k they cant even Catch the B-29.
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2016, 08:57:19 PM »
Same objection here: A very uneven matchup. At 20+ k no japanese fighters have a chance against the Americans, at 30k they cant even Catch the B-29.

Well...

Take a look at the video. Curtiss LeMay had the bombers going in at 12 thousand feet.

This is easy. We drop the altitudes, including fighters and increase the number of objectives for the USAAF.

If you can write up an issue. It can be over come by writing it out.

Within reason...
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2016, 09:01:54 PM »
No PTO.....

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2016, 09:05:16 PM »
Sorry but BOB is overplayed in All Event's including FSO I am suggesting Over Enemy Lines (Winter Germany) into BOG Summer Germany 6 hrs for each event

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2016, 09:09:27 PM »
Well...

Take a look at the video. Curtiss LeMay had the bombers going in at 12 thousand feet.

This is easy. We drop the altitudes, including fighters and increase the number of objectives for the USAAF.

If you can write up an issue. It can be over come by writing it out.

Within reason...

At night yes. You want us to do the scenario in darkness?

And as for the last Days day raids:

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LeMay's plan called for precision attacks on important industrial targets on days when the weather over Japan was clear and incendiary attacks guided by radar on overcast days. As both the cities and industrial facilities targeted were relatively small, the B-29 force would be sent against multiple locations on days in which attacks were conducted. This targeting policy, which was labeled the "Empire Plan", remained in force until the last days of the war

How are we supposed to make that happen in the game?

Edit: But OK, we can be a Little creative for the sake of fun. But sending B-29:s in at 12k against the full force of japanese fighters will be ugly. The problem is to find a good altitude for the fighting. American planes wants to be as high as possible and Japanese as low as possible it will be hard to make it even.
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2016, 10:30:23 PM »
The Last Bomb

12 hours Scenario

1945
Japan vs USAAF

IJA/IJN 45%  USAAF 55%

Planeset

IJA/IJN

A6M5b
KI61
N1K2-J
KI-45 (BF110C-4b)
KI84
ME163

USAAF

P-51D
P-47N
P-38L
B-29





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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2016, 11:19:09 PM »
Sorry but BOB is overplayed in All Event's including FSO I am suggesting Over Enemy Lines (Winter Germany) into BOG Summer Germany 6 hrs for each event

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2016, 12:44:45 AM »
Most of these sound great but I'm just not into the speculative WW3 stuff. I also prefer the early and mid war ones just because it gets people into different planes than the ones everybody flies in the MA.

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2016, 01:16:11 AM »
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2016, 01:29:12 AM »
There's a good book with a lot of info on B-29 bombing (Whirlwind: the Air War Against Japan, 1942-1945, by Barrett Tillman).

Interestingly, in the earlier usages of B-29's out of China, there were bombing missions of B-29's that weren't super high alt, where the B-29's met substantial Japanese fighter resistance, and suffered substantial losses.

This got me to thinking that scenarios with B-29's might not be lopsided after all.

The last frame of "The Pacific War" scenario had B-29's, P-51D's, P-38L's, and P-47N's vs. N1K2's, Ki-84's, Ki-61's, A6M5b's, and Bf 110G's (as Ki-45's) -- and it turned out to be OK in terms of balance.  The B-29's were limited to 20k alt, and the numbers were equal between the sides, giving the Japanese 1/3 more fighters than the US (as 25% of the US force were B-29's).

I flew on the Japanese side on that one.  It was fun and worked out OK.  The B-29 isn't as tough as I thought it would be.  I ended up shooting down a couple of B-29's in my Ki-61.

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2016, 01:33:12 AM »
The list of scenarios run, going back to 2004, is:

    The Battle of the Dnieper (June, 2016
    Southern Conquest (February, 2016
    Target for Today (May, 2015
    Battle Over the Winter Line (January, 2015
    The Pacific War (June, 2014
    Battle of Britain 2013 (September, 2013
    Mediterranean Maelstrom (March, 2013
    Der Grosse Schlag II (October, 2012
    Winter Sky - Death Ground (April, 2012
    Enemy Coast Ahead (October, 2011
    Road to Rangoon (May, 2011
    Battle Over Germany (February, 2011
    Philippine Phandango (August, 2010
    The Final Battle (March, 2010
    Red Storm / Krupp Steel (October, 2009
    Coral Sea 2009 (July, 2009
    Tunisia: Dawn of Battle (April, 2009
    Battle of Britain 2008 (November, 2008
    Rangoon, '42 (2008) (August, 2008
    Der Grosse Schlag (October, 2007
    Operation Husky (June, 2007
    Battle of Britain 2006 (September, 2006
    Operation Downfall (July, 2006
    Stalin's Fourth (April, 2006
    Fire Over Malta (November, 2005
    Coral Sea (April, 2005
    Rangoon, '42 (October, 2004
    Battle of Britain 2004 (August, 2004

Page with links to writeups and pictorials:

http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/scenarios.html
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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2016, 05:57:08 AM »
There's a good book with a lot of info on B-29 bombing (Whirlwind: the Air War Against Japan, 1942-1945, by Barrett Tillman).

Interestingly, in the earlier usages of B-29's out of China, there were bombing missions of B-29's that weren't super high alt, where the B-29's met substantial Japanese fighter resistance, and suffered substantial losses.

This got me to thinking that scenarios with B-29's might not be lopsided after all.

The last frame of "The Pacific War" scenario had B-29's, P-51D's, P-38L's, and P-47N's vs. N1K2's, Ki-84's, Ki-61's, A6M5b's, and Bf 110G's (as Ki-45's) -- and it turned out to be OK in terms of balance.  The B-29's were limited to 20k alt, and the numbers were equal between the sides, giving the Japanese 1/3 more fighters than the US (as 25% of the US force were B-29's).

I flew on the Japanese side on that one.  It was fun and worked out OK.  The B-29 isn't as tough as I thought it would be.  I ended up shooting down a couple of B-29's in my Ki-61.

Exactly!

It would work out just fine.  :aok

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Re: And the next scenario should be....
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2016, 10:06:53 AM »
There's a good book with a lot of info on B-29 bombing (Whirlwind: the Air War Against Japan, 1942-1945, by Barrett Tillman).

Interestingly, in the earlier usages of B-29's out of China, there were bombing missions of B-29's that weren't super high alt, where the B-29's met substantial Japanese fighter resistance, and suffered substantial losses.

This got me to thinking that scenarios with B-29's might not be lopsided after all.

The last frame of "The Pacific War" scenario had B-29's, P-51D's, P-38L's, and P-47N's vs. N1K2's, Ki-84's, Ki-61's, A6M5b's, and Bf 110G's (as Ki-45's) -- and it turned out to be OK in terms of balance.  The B-29's were limited to 20k alt, and the numbers were equal between the sides, giving the Japanese 1/3 more fighters than the US (as 25% of the US force were B-29's).

I flew on the Japanese side on that one.  It was fun and worked out OK.  The B-29 isn't as tough as I thought it would be.  I ended up shooting down a couple of B-29's in my Ki-61.

20k is prob the best alt for B-29:s in such scenario. But my concern is that it's turned into a pickfest were U.S fighters come in at 30k and dive down on the Japanese, never turning or slowing down enough to make a fight out of it.
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