loss of members

[Estes]

Thats where getting the word out comes in. HTC needs to step up the info about the beta, and really ramp it up just before it's release. Picture the ads you see for movies. Even a crappy movie can have a good first weekend if the hype is built up enough.

Dolby should make a few short movies in the beta and post them. 30 seconds, lots of action. Once posted everyone else should "like", "repost", and "retweet" the link for those videos. Post links over at WarThunder and World of tanks. The more info that is thrown out there the more people that will stumble onto it.

AK-AK posts info over at "FlameWarriors" which Im sure keeps the old school guys up to date. The more the word gets out there the more people that will stop in and check it out. Once they stop in, a better more friendly atmosphere will help keep them.


Ask the thousands of players at Warthunder and World of tanks how much of a niche game these are.

Yes, but flight sims/combat sims/mil sim are a niche market. And my point was that I think some of the guys complaining about numbers don't realize that and are picturing HTC HQ to have the man power of blizzard or something.

[Wiley]

Ask the thousands of players at Warthunder and World of tanks how much of a niche game these are.

Sure.  However look at this game.  Now look at War Thunder.  Now look at Counterstrike/COD/Halo/generic FPS 347.

Forgetting about the fact that they're in vehicles, which game is the actual gameplay of War Thunder closer to?  I'd say Counterstrike or any of the other FPS's out there.

Small groups, even number teams, 20-30 minute objectives, get a reward at the end of it.

Open world MMO PvP is most definitely a niche market, and draws orders of magnitude fewer people in to play it.  The closest thing to this game out there in gameplay is actually Planetside 2, and their numbers are again orders of magnitude smaller than games like WT and the FPS's.

I wish it were otherwise, but it's plain as day that not very many people want this kind of game play.

Wiley.

[FLS]

Ask the thousands of players at Warthunder and World of tanks how much of a niche game these are.

Those aren't niche games. Aces High and DCS are niche games.

[Oldman731]

I wish it were otherwise, but it's plain as day that not very many people want this kind of game play.

I wonder if that's why they call this a niche game...?

- oldman

[Brooke]

I say that, if I like this game, there are a million other people who would like it, too! 

[The Fugitive]

Yes, but flight sims/combat sims/mil sim are a niche market. And my point was that I think some of the guys complaining about numbers don't realize that and are picturing HTC HQ to have the man power of blizzard or something.

HTC doesn't need the man power of Blizzard to run the game. It would be nice to have it when it comes time for the upgrades  HTC needs to find out what drives the customers away and make adjustments. The old "nobody plays a game more than a year or so" and accept the fact that people are just going to leave isn't good enough any more. That or they need to work on attracting more people to make of for those that always leaving. I think there is a lot they can do to help players stay interested. I also think think there is a a lot more they could do to get people into the game.

Sure.  However look at this game.  Now look at War Thunder.  Now look at Counterstrike/COD/Halo/generic FPS 347.

Forgetting about the fact that they're in vehicles, which game is the actual gameplay of War Thunder closer to?  I'd say Counterstrike or any of the other FPS's out there.

Small groups, even number teams, 20-30 minute objectives, get a reward at the end of it.

Open world MMO PvP is most definitely a niche market, and draws orders of magnitude fewer people in to play it.  The closest thing to this game out there in gameplay is actually Planetside 2, and their numbers are again orders of magnitude smaller than games like WT and the FPS's.

I wish it were otherwise, but it's plain as day that not very many people want this kind of game play.

Wiley.

If you want to get picky, ANY game could be called a niche game. A flight game is a flight game. While to most of us War Thunder sucks as a game it is still basically a flight game using WWII planes. The same goes for IL2, DSC and so on. A tank game is a tank game, World of tanks has nothing better than AH, and a lot less if you ask me, yet it still is a tank game. They have several thousand players while this game struggles to hit several hundred.

I say that, if I like this game, there are a million other people who would like it, too! 

You look "marvelous!" in that cheerleader dress 

[Brooke]

You look "marvelous!" in that cheerleader dress 

Thanks! 

[GScholz]

 

[molybdenum]

I personally believe there will be a good response to the release of lll. It will take time but a lot of the old players will come back and new ones will join.

I'll check out AH3 when it finally launches, but what I saw of it a few months ago was so unappealing I can't imagine wanting to play the game anymore unless it has drastically changed in the meantime.

[BaldEagl]

We have to figure out how to get some of those people over here.

Who's we?  Do you have a stake in HTC?  If not when did it become OUR responsibility to get players into the game?

It's HT's business.  If he's content to see it slowly die that's his choice.

[Meatwad]

No... there does not.  AH is already one of the most nannified games around, and you want more of these hidden HTC sycophants running around?  No, they create more problems than they're solve.

Reminds me when the MP's were running rampant in the message boards

[USCH]

Who's we?  Do you have a stake in HTC?  If not when did it become OUR responsibility to get players into the game?

It's HT's business.  If he's content to see it slowly die that's his choice.

you do make a good point, i agree. But also i feel like if i could do something to help i would.

[Brooke]

Who's we? 

In the context of this discussion, "we" = "people who want to think up ways to get more people into AH," of course.

Do you have a stake in HTC? 

No.  But I do have a stake in there being more players (as it affects my enjoyment).

If not when did it become OUR responsibility to get players into the game?

It's HT's business.  If he's content to see it slowly die that's his choice.

None of it is our responsibility.  You and I can do whatever we want.  You can do what you want, and I can try to recruit more players into AH for my purely selfish reasons of my own enjoyment. 

[Hungry]

What I don't see is that the Sales and Marketing of Aces High should be everywhere possible including this forum, the "face" should be everywhere, how many new guys check out this forum and see the turmoil, there is rarely a trace of a Sales and Marketing "pep talk" or any kind of Sales Schmooze for lack of a better phrase, instead what you see are players being chastised for not trying harder to enhance the product themselves.

If AH3 is getting anywhere near close to completion the Sales pitch should be on now.  Same in any business with a new product on the horizon, the teasers should be out already.  The enhancements to the game should be well advertised.  This after all is a product.  The steps to successfully releasing a new product are well documented,

The phrase "A wing and a prayer" couldn't be more appropriate, frankly if it was me I would have all over this forum protecting my product as I do in real life.

[guncrasher]

hungry the pitch is already there.  right now anybody can play ah3 for free.  not credit card or anything else needed.


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