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Offline Gman

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 10:17:48 AM »
I actually haven't reinstalled SweetFX and completely forgot about it since running new systems - I'll do that today, AkAk put me on to SweetFX a while back and I used it since then, but had just forgotten about it since getting it set where I wanted in AH.  Same with my soundpacks, I need to do that as well.

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 11:27:18 AM »
my current mobo is QPI based.  X58
Has this changed much or are the ram and cpu clock speeds still intertwined?
This was a limitation on OC'ing my X58 system. I have 2000MHz ram installed but in order to get what works with a 4GHz cpu OC its DC'ed to 1668MHz with turbo timings. I noticed that ram speeds are now at 3440MHz and crap. So how are the cpu and DDr4 ram playing together?

Pudgie my head hurts man. :salute
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BD, I had read what your talking about regarding core count and bclk. I think the link, earlier post, for OC'ing broadwell hits on this. Good info ty.

Sorry for that MADe, hope it hurts in a good way.................

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Intel X58 mobo block diagram was a direct copy of the AMD mobo block diagram (can't remember the chipset name) that the AMD Athlon\Phenom CPU's used (which is the current block diagram being used on all current AMD mobos today) w\ different naming for the exact same tracing. This was part of the licensing agreement between AMD and Intel when Intel licensed the rights to use the AMD Athlon CPU architecture (which brought about the Intel Nehalem CPU and X58 chipset). The limiting part was the Northbridge chipset\QPI link as this chipset\link had to handle the entire data stream of the mobo so these parts were very sensitive when pushed to capacity, especially when OC'ing (if mem serves me here, to OC the CPU you also had to work the QPI setup along w\ the mem as all this had to match up on clock timings and speed\bandwidth limited by power available, correct?).

Intel solved all this starting w\ X79 and Z68 when the Northbridge chipset was essentially eliminated (all this circuitry moved to the CPU die along w\ the DMA controller and all tracing) and all is now clocked at the on-die CPU core clock speed on very short tracing incorporating an L3 cache on the CPU side w\ the DMA controllers interfacing between the CPU cores\L3 cache, system mem, dedicated PCI-E lanes (graphics cards) and the Southbridge chipset thru QPI\DMI serial links so in effect they do not actually "talk or are intertwined" directly to each other anymore, but to each other thru the on-die DMA controllers w\ the DMA controllers handling the interrupt switching between CPU, graphics card(s) and Southbridge chipset to system mem cache. The development of these very sophisticated DMA controllers are a big part of Intel's overall dominance over AMD since SandyBridge and IMHO is the main reason why Intel hasn't really pushed CPU core clock speeds much on their HEDT\mainstream setups and concentrated more on core counts to improve overall system thruput and reduce power usage at the same time by reducing CPU clock speed when feasible while retaining good single threaded performance (gaming importance) and why these Intel packages since Z68\X79 demonstrate very little to no overall gaming performance drop off as well across platform upgrades.

I also suspect that AMD w\ Zen is going to reverse license w\ Intel due to the existing licensing agreement between them to incorporate a similar copy of Intel's current version of the HEDT block diagram (x99) as this is now a somewhat "pedestrian" diagram to conclude this license. My hunch on this only as this makes the most sense for AMD to do.

Time will tell.

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 06:42:36 PM »
On a whim I d'ld the Gigabyte F22 UEFI BIOS again just for giggles, extracted it onto my USB stick and performed a reflash on my X99M Gaming 5 mobo and rebooted..............

This time all came up good and in order!
Got all set back up in F22 UEFI as I had all set up prior in F20 UEFI before and rebooted and all came up easy as pie.

Now I really don't know what has changed since the 1st time I tried to boot up after reflash to F22 UEFI but its all good now............

So as of now I'm ready for a CPU upgrade to Broadwell-E!

Intel I7 6850X I'm coming for you, honey!

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2016, 11:15:56 PM »
jealously abounds.................. :aok
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So a new mobo gonna be a new OC experience.
INTEL 6850, $650 +/-
Gigabyte, x99 mobo, $650+/-
Gigabyte, pascal video card, 450+/-
OCZ, SSD's, $????????
????, PSU, $???????
12GB Kingston ram, $?????????
VR, $700 +/-
AH, $15/mth
ISP, $35/mth

Dang it AH, u cost as much as a girlfriend................... ..........
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 11:33:27 PM by MADe »
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2016, 11:30:32 PM »
I actually haven't reinstalled SweetFX and completely forgot about it since running new systems - I'll do that today, AkAk put me on to SweetFX a while back and I used it since then, but had just forgotten about it since getting it set where I wanted in AH.  Same with my soundpacks, I need to do that as well.

After you get a profile set up you like, post it would ya, I wanna see what you enhance. Me is mostly color saturation, sharpness, B/W contrast. But I should prolly push it and disable all AH settings along with Nvidia settings, see what happens. I think SweetFX is great. I had it working in AH 3 as well. Once its released, I will do some testing with sweetfx.
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2016, 02:31:37 AM »
jealously abounds.................. :aok
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So a new mobo gonna be a new OC experience.
INTEL 6850, $650 +/-
Gigabyte, x99 mobo, $650+/-
Gigabyte, pascal video card, 450+/-
OCZ, SSD's, $????????
????, PSU, $???????
12GB Kingston ram, $?????????
VR, $700 +/-
AH, $15/mth
ISP, $35/mth

Dang it AH, u cost as much as a girlfriend................... ..........

12GB? You must mean 16GB?
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2016, 06:29:12 AM »
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AH, $15/mth
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Dang it AH, u cost as much as a girlfriend................... ..........

You've got a cheap girlfriend. My ex girlfriend a.k.a wife easily can spend that much in a single day. Fortunately she earns more than I do, so it's OK.
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2016, 11:52:14 PM »
jealously abounds.................. :aok
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So a new mobo gonna be a new OC experience.
INTEL 6850, $650 +/-
Gigabyte, x99 mobo, $650+/-
Gigabyte, pascal video card, 450+/-
OCZ, SSD's, $????????
????, PSU, $???????
12GB Kingston ram, $?????????
VR, $700 +/-
AH, $15/mth
ISP, $35/mth

Dang it AH, u cost as much as a girlfriend................... ..........

Are you using this to play Aces high or calculate the mass of the known universe?

You do know that an i7 6700 is more powerful in gaming applications right?

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2016, 12:35:41 AM »
6700 is only slightly faster, and not in every game, just some of the AAA games - of the 20 or so I put to the test with 1080FE SLI cards in both systems, it's a draw pretty much, the 6700 with popular AAA games may have a few percent, but that's it, and in desktop tasks, it's no contest that the B-E cpu/mb is faster almost across the board.  For the $ the 6700 is certainly a better deal for games - for now at least.
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2016, 10:05:20 AM »
Are you using this to play Aces high or calculate the mass of the known universe?

You do know that an i7 6700 is more powerful in gaming applications right?

I believe that calculating the mass of the known universe was already mentioned as the builds goal.
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2016, 11:56:48 AM »
jealously abounds.................. :aok
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So a new mobo gonna be a new OC experience.
INTEL 6850, $650 +/-
Gigabyte, x99 mobo, $650+/-
Gigabyte, pascal video card, 450+/-
OCZ, SSD's, $????????
????, PSU, $???????
12GB Kingston ram, $?????????
VR, $700 +/-
AH, $15/mth
ISP, $35/mth

Dang it AH, u cost as much as a girlfriend................... ..........


Here is the block diagram for the Intel X58 mobos as well...............

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2016, 08:47:27 PM »
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5809#ov

Pudgie???????????????????
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I like the 8 dims, dual lan, price...................
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2016, 11:08:28 PM »
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5809#ov

Pudgie???????????????????
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I like the 8 dims, dual lan, price...................

Ok, now this is more like what I'd figured you'd have gone for according to your original posting.......you threw me when you posted only wanting 1 or 2 PCI-E x16 slots........................ .....

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PS--You did note that Intel lists the X58 block diagram as a server diagram for server usage instead of a desktop diagram?

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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2016, 11:15:43 AM »
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5129#ov
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5284#ov


I just did not want to pay for pcie I was not gonna use. Looks like its one of these 3 boards with a GTX 1070G1.

mobo +/- $300
video +/- $450, gigabyte
cpu  +/- $650, intel
ram +/- $300, HyperX


Someone has OC'ed the 10 core monsta to 5.7GHz! I'm gonna get 5GHz or bust.
Coming down a little dollar wise.....

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check the price here???????????????????????
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Re: Broadwell E
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2016, 08:14:04 PM »
appears for OC'ing, I want 4 dimms not 8.
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