Author Topic: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box  (Read 5098 times)

Offline popeye

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2016, 07:01:29 PM »
I am using the Track Center command (not the TIR software center command).
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2016, 07:27:21 PM »
Popeye use Ctrl F4 to center or map a switch to Tracker Center in AH3. Use that instead of the TrackIR software center command.


It doesn't matter which.  The problem still exists.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2016, 08:34:33 PM »
I am using the Track Center command (not the TIR software center command).

How did you adjust the sight picture before F10?

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2016, 09:24:03 PM »
How did you adjust the sight picture before F10?

I moved my (actual) head with TIR enabled.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2016, 09:44:20 PM »
From the pictures it looks like you hit F10 twice. Note the messages.  That moved you twice as far as you wanted to move.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2016, 10:47:07 AM »
I found the bug.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2016, 10:51:59 AM »

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2016, 10:52:29 AM »
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2016, 11:06:14 AM »
I found the bug.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2016, 11:35:48 AM »
If I hit the control button in AH3 using Win10 a message pops up that I am attempting to access a file and it drops AH3 DOWN TO THE TASK BAR.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2016, 05:54:54 PM »
That is awesome that you found the bug. BTW, if its fixed in the last update (Friday), it didn't work.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2016, 08:25:51 PM »
Problem seems to be still in place after last update.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2016, 10:18:57 PM »
Are you still using the TrackIR center command instead of the AH Tracker Center command?

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2016, 03:05:48 PM »
Thanks FLS! That is the first ever mention of the AH Tracker Center command. Where is this? Is this buried in the myriad of commands for keystrokes? How is this discoverable by any new user?

The natural inclination is to use the TIR center command unless there is some documentation that shows what the AH Tracker really does. Do we have that? IMHO, it would be much better not to put the community on an easter egg hunt to locate features.

Just to ask the dumb but obvious question. Is the long term plan to make AHIII a game that anyone can pick up and play or is it intended that only those who have buckets of time learning every esoteric aspect of the game can win? If you have to go 3 weeks and bunch of posts to discover it, is it really discoverable? Are we making a complex game EVEN more complex? IMHO, the esoteric audience is here, now. Players will gravitate to games in which the features can be discovered.

Just to put the plea simply. In my experience there is NO discoverability fairy that makes this work. You either choose to make a game in which the features are easily discoverable OR you document in a way that they can be easily found. Making it so that the features are hard to find or scattered about willy nilly AND choose not to document is to dig the hole deeper. You have to figure out which is cheaper. IMHO, after the game is built, documenting is much easier than trying to retroactively apply the discipline to make them easy find.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2016, 03:39:36 PM »
Thanks FLS! That is the first ever mention of the AH Tracker Center command.

Tracker Center was in the 5th response in this thread but it was before I realized that TrackIR center did not do the same thing. Tracker Center has been an AH command option for some time, I don't recall when it was added but wasn't required before the new view options. I'm sure the documentation will be updated as time permits. You'll notice I previously mentioned it in the Help and Training forum in response to Randy1's similar problem.