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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2016, 09:11:33 AM »
I checked the F4F with TIR and it works normally. I had no trouble setting the gunsight to center, moving it off center, and setting it back to center.

I've used TIR since TIR3 came out. Currently using TIR5 but mostly using the Rift headset now.

When you are pressing F10 in the F4F are you seeing the position you want to save? What happens when you center TIR after pressing F10?

What are you using to center TIR? Have you tried using "tracker center" in AH settings?
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2016, 10:00:51 AM »
No.  when I press F10 after setting my desired position, which is a little a above center - basically I want the center of the sight just visible and equal distance horizontally,  the position goes all the way up to the top.


Not sure what "tracker center" is.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2016, 10:06:19 AM »
What do you use to center TIR?

How are you setting your position in the F4F?

Tracker Center is an AH command that you map to a button. It centers TIR and the Rift and any similar head tracking device.

To raise the gun sight in the F4F I would center TIR, lift my head up to raise the sight, press F10, sit normally. Center TIR.


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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2016, 10:12:20 AM »
What do you use to center TIR?

Tracker Center is an AH command that you map to a button. It centers TIR and the Rift and any similar head tracking device.

I have a button programmed in TIR to center.  Is that the same as using the AH command?  (It does center the view.)
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2016, 10:16:52 AM »
It seems the same to me. Is setting views working for you now?

Edit: I checked both ways and they both center the default view but the TIR center does not set the new view properly.

You'll want to use the AH "Tracker Center" command when adjusting views.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2016, 11:42:23 AM »
What do you use to center TIR?

How are you setting your position in the F4F?

Tracker Center is an AH command that you map to a button. It centers TIR and the Rift and any similar head tracking device.

To raise the gun sight in the F4F I would center TIR, lift my head up to raise the sight, press F10, sit normally. Center TIR.


The center function of TIR.  I have it mapped to my gear.


I've previously detailed how I set the head position for all AC I use. Pause TIR, adjust head position using keyboard page up/down and side arrow keys, hit F10, unpause TIR and fly.  Doesn't work with the wildcat.


Where is Tracker Center in the AH settings?  Are you referring to mapping a button or key to TIR's center function or does AH have a function within the software?


I use TIR 5 and too my knowledge, it will not adjust the seat "height" in the cockpit.  I am only aware of being able to do that within AH using the keyboard.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2016, 12:12:37 PM »
Not sure what "tracker center" is.

Default key is Ctrl F4,

In Key or control mapping is under the View group and labeled "Tracker Center"

If you have not been using this, it explains why you are having issues.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2016, 12:22:10 PM »
Thank you for the clear and helpful response. 
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2016, 02:54:41 PM »
Ammo it such a pain to get it right in ah3 but if you go get one right you can copy the file content and paste it in other planes in the same series.

I spent a couple of hours on the P-38J gunsight alignment, then got lucky and one f10 saved worked.  I then pasted that in the P-38L file.


In ah2 this would take about 10 seconds.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2016, 03:16:11 PM »
Ammo it such a pain to get it right in ah3 but if you go get one right you can copy the file content and paste it in other planes in the same series.

I spent a couple of hours on the P-38J gunsight alignment, then got lucky and one f10 saved worked.  I then pasted that in the P-38L file.


In ah2 this would take about 10 seconds.

I truly do not understand what is difficult,either I have a bug which no one has described, or something is being missed in communication.

It should take 2 secs to set a view up perfectly.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2016, 03:20:36 PM »
I truly do not understand what is difficult,either I have a bug which no one has described, or something is being missed in communication.

It should take 2 secs to set a view up perfectly.

HiTech

You have to center TIR with "Tracker Center". Setting a new position doesn't work if you center TIR with the TIR software.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2016, 03:58:24 PM »
I truly do not understand what is difficult,either I have a bug which no one has described, or something is being missed in communication.

It should take 2 secs to set a view up perfectly.

HiTech

My typical procedure in ah2 was with tir working fine in game and a desire to change the saved head position.
Ctrl F5 to turn tir off
adjusted head position
save with F10
turn tir back on with Ctrl F1

This works with ah3 in some planes and others it does not.  The worst is the P-38G

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2016, 04:40:35 PM »
I truly do not understand what is difficult,either I have a bug which no one has described, or something is being missed in communication.

It should take 2 secs to set a view up perfectly.

HiTech


Maybe a clearly written tutorial with screenshots would help?
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2016, 04:42:03 PM »
Screen shots are attached that show what I am seeing.  I am using the AH Track Center command mapped to a controller.
You can see that the end result after re-centering is not what I see before pressing F10.  (Screen shot resolution has been reduced and converted to jpegs to reduce file size.)
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2016, 05:19:05 PM »
Popeye use Ctrl F4 to center or map a switch to Tracker Center in AH3. Use that instead of the TrackIR software center command.