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Offline Vulcan

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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 02:46:38 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on October 26, 2016, 10:56:15 PM
Socialist medicine... He wasn't worth saving in a socialist society. Of course they couldn't say that to him because then he might have gotten mad...

Sorry if this is rule 14 territory...

Technically speaking your healthcare system in Norway is somewhat socialist, like NZ's, and probably fairly decent.

I think you're confusing socialist healthcare with a country that is broke.
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Offline Zimme83

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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 03:24:31 PM »
Quote from: Vulcan on October 27, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
Technically speaking your healthcare system in Norway is somewhat socialist, like NZ's, and probably fairly decent.

I think you're confusing socialist healthcare with a country that is broke.

Not just 'Somewhat'...
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 03:28:05 PM »
The healthcare system in Norway is not somewhat socialist, it is completely socialist. "I'm sorry but this medicine is too expensive." - "I'm sorry but this operation is too expensive". We're just red numbers on some bureaucrat's ledger and the waiting time for operations, or even diagnosis is measured in months. Private healthcare alternatives are largely outlawed, so some desperate people sell their belongings to finance treatment abroad.

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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 04:00:26 PM »
Absolutely insane. Hope and pray for the best!
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2016, 02:17:35 PM »
The elephant in the room guys

Nothing is free and you need to pay for everything  :old:

The man wants his coin :old:
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2016, 02:24:51 PM »
Prayers will continue from our family to yours, For the healing hand of GOD be upon your father in law, we pray for a full recovery to health. Amen!
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2016, 09:49:27 AM »
We have Doctors here not much better. If you have a Doctor not helping you dont stay under his "spell". Go find another who can. Honestly I often think Doctors are more dangerous then the illness with the incompetents Ive seen in my life.
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2016, 08:32:32 AM »
Any Ukrainian MD worth a damn is already in the states.
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2016, 03:30:48 PM »
Sorry for his problems HiTech  :(
Before the strokes I installed and serviced many an oncology
MRI and CT. From what I recall, radiation treatment and
chemo treatment are rarely effective (but not ineffective).
I told my Neuro, Card and Family Docs, to shoot me up with
morphine and send me home should I ever get a disease that cannot be 100%
cured. I figure there is no point in draining or savings for a "maybe" good outcome  :aok
But that is just me... I would not suggest it for anyone else
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2016, 10:39:36 AM »
Wow, tough deal Hitech.  Helps you appreciate what we do have here.  Best wishes that all works out best for you and your family.
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2016, 11:39:41 AM »
Sorry to hear about his health issues. I am glad you got him stateside for treatment though. Knee mail OTW for a good outcome.
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2016, 04:19:01 AM »


Sorry to hear that Hitech. 
My mom was recently diagnosed with colon cancer and I could not imagine if this had happened to her.
He is in my prayers for a speedy recovery.    :pray

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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2016, 08:49:16 AM »
Prayers from my family to yours Dale.....
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2016, 03:00:48 PM »
Quote from: Ramesis on October 30, 2016, 03:30:48 PM
Sorry for his problems HiTech  :(
Before the strokes I installed and serviced many an oncology
MRI and CT. From what I recall, radiation treatment and
chemo treatment are rarely effective (but not ineffective).
I told my Neuro, Card and Family Docs, to shoot me up with
morphine and send me home should I ever get a disease that cannot be 100%
cured. I figure there is no point in draining or savings for a "maybe" good outcome  :aok
But that is just me... I would not suggest it for anyone else


  Hey now!!!   That's my idea..... :furious :furious :furious


   But then I dont have to ask as they already give me large amounts of Morphine.....


   Sorry to read this Dale,we have social medicine here but it's top notch. Both my wife and I have been dealing with the big C and we are thankful we have good nearby Hospitals and Doctors.

  Funny thing is my Doc is Latvian,so he knows how bad it could be and does his best to be sure we are both treated with the best care possible. Colon cancer can be a real pain in the... if you're over 50 be sure to be checked,if caught early there's good success,if left too long well it's not something anyone would want to go through!


    :salute
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2016, 09:10:36 AM »
Sorry to hear that!
 Poor countries, corruption same in Romania; in 2007 i had to buy blood for transfusions, anesthetics and pay the doctors to operate my mother , was too late anyway. If you have $$ live longer, i read about David Rockefeller at 101 yo, received 7th hearth transplant.
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