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Offline hitech

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Ukraine Medicine
« on: October 26, 2016, 04:15:33 PM »
I always knew health care was not the worlds greatest in Ukraine, but I never thought this was possible.

About 2-3 years ago my Father In law (Age 60) was complaining of rectal bleeding. Of course like many people he does not see the doctor until early this year. Yes he has colon cancer, they radiate for 5 days, then operate.

After which he goes home and they say he should be fine.

He never felt very good after the operation, and 2 months ago we convinced him to go back in to find out whats up. At This point he can not poo, has fever and lost lots of weight (think holocaust). The stick a finger up, take an Xray and tell him he is fine. A week ago they finally take blood and tell him he is anemic and give him something to self inject.

So we finally talk him in to coming back to the US, was here 3 years ago with green card. This past Wednesday 10/19/2016 he arrives and does not look good, my wife takes him to emergency Thursday morning, at 1:00 AM Friday he has a colostomy. After CT scan and sonogram he obviously still has a large tumor.

As things progress the oncologist tells us if would be very helpful if we find out what the previous operation did, and what radiation treatments were performed.

Yesterday after MRI the tumor has not spread to any glands, but is pushing against his Pelvic wall , bladder and prostate.

This morning my Brother in law goes to the hospitable to get records. The doctor tells him that when they opened Victor up, they saw the large tumor decided they could not do anything and closed him back up.
Told him he was fine and sent him home.

So since March he has been thinking he should be getting better,and even after many visits the doctor kept telling him he was fine.

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2016, 04:21:24 PM »
That's a messed up situation, man. It sounds like he's in better hands now, so hopefully he can get some legit treatment.

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2016, 08:56:47 PM »
That's awful.

Glad he is out of the hands of those butchers.

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2016, 09:17:54 PM »
Wow...

How terrible... :pray
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2016, 10:56:15 PM »
Socialist medicine... He wasn't worth saving in a socialist society. Of course they couldn't say that to him because then he might have gotten mad...

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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 01:13:59 AM »
There was relatively good+- system during Soviet era, after collapse due to shortages it is in horrible state. Only private medecine provides somewhat reasonable care.

In any case, good health to your family!
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 01:22:57 AM »
 In the UK is a lottery if you come out worse than you went in.

Friend of mine went in for his test results for a camera down his threat he never had.

Someone I know went to India for a full set of teeth that should have cost £20k and got them for done for £2000.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 02:01:59 AM »
Hoping for the best, Hitech.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2016, 02:07:21 AM »
Well done boss for getting on top of a bad situation..
It always pays to analyse what is being told you and question it hard I have found.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2016, 03:21:31 AM »
He is too young to be treated so shabbily, and I'm glad he agreed to let you intervene.
I'm also hoping for the best possible outcome for him.  :pray
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Re: Ukraine Medicine
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2016, 04:41:14 AM »
That is grim.

I agree with GScholz.

I worked with several former Soviets.  Their stories of healthcare were also grim.

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 04:46:21 AM »
Sound awful that they would mislead like that.

My grandfather was stage 4 colon cancer.  A separate surgery found it not his regular check ups.  He went in for surgery and was gone in two days.  Whatever they did, it was not something his body could recover from.  I wonder how long he would have lived with out the surgery.


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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 04:49:35 AM »
That is pretty shocking, Ukraine isn't a 3rd world country the Doctoring should be of a higher standard than that.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2016, 07:42:28 AM »
Godspeed to his recovery Dale.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2016, 10:33:20 AM »
Dear lord...

He's in our prayers. But it blows my mind they wouldn't at least tell him that it was inoperable...