Any CCW people here?

[saggs]

I like to keep myself away from situations that require a weapon.

Obviously the best option is avoidance, this is true.  Don't go to ATMs at 1am in the bad part of town... that kind of thing. 

But consider some recent high profile events, and where they occurred.. hardy what you'd consider "bad" situations are they?

   -An office Christmas party in the middle of the day, in a San Bernadino, CA business park. 
   -Going to the movies in Aurora, CO
   -Just walking down the street in the middle of the day in Isla Vista, CA
   -An evening shopping at the Crossroads Mall in St. Cloud MN.
   -Walking between classes at Ohio State,  or Umpqua Community College, or VA tech

Those are just off the top of my head...  now consider that for every high profile attack like that, which are all over the national news, there are probably thousands of stories you don't hear about.

Peruse this for while, for just a few. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/?s=defensive+gun+use+of+the+day

Of course NO ONE can say what difference (if any) would have been made if there was a good guy with a gun present at any of these events.  But I believe that people have an unalienable right to self defense, and forcing them to be defenseless is immoral.

I'm not going to tell anyone to buy or carry a gun (certainly if you're not willing to learn how to use it and get training, and practice regularly I don't think you should)  but I do believe every law abiding citizen should have be able to make that choice for themselves.  I carry (when able, I cannot at work due to TSA restrictions at airports) a gun for the same reason I have a fire extinguisher at home, or home/auto/health insurance, or a first aid/trauma kit at home and in the vehicle, or food storage at home, or a 72hr kit in the vehicle.  I hope I never have to use any of it, but I'm glad I have it. Not saying you should of course use a gun in every situation where you might.  It's fight or flee right? Sometimes flee is the wiser choice,  But it's nice to have a fight option available too.

The argument I always come back to is this:

When some kind of really bad attack is going on, what's the first thing people do?  "Call the Police."  Why?  "Because they have guns and know how to use them."   Hmmmm... what if you had a gun and knew how to use it? (same argument goes for trauma/first aid kits and training too.)

[Kanth]

Have you been to an Office Christmas party???

But consider some recent high profile events, and where they occurred.. hardy what you'd consider "bad" situations are they?

   -An office Christmas party in the middle of the day, in a San Bernadino, CA business park. 
 

[Wiley]

Have you been to an Office Christmas party???

A sidearm is insufficient armament.  My preference is mid level body armor and some kind of automatic rifle, preferably belt fed.

Wiley.

[guncrasher]

Just finished our office Xmas party in San Bernardino.



Semp

[Kanth]

   I hear ya.

preferably belt fed.

Wiley.

[saggs]

A sidearm is insufficient armament.  My preference is mid level body armor and some kind of automatic rifle, preferably belt fed.

Wiley.

For some reason reminded me of this image I saw a few years back.

[caldera]

For some reason reminded me of this image I saw a few years back.

(Image removed from quote.)

Kids are really good at button pressing in video games, which would also make them really good at launching AMRAAMs. 

[AKIron]

Of course firearms are only machines and little different in their lack of self-motivation from automobiles except they kill fewer people.

[guncrasher]

I own a couple of guns and while I respect those who wish to carry, what I find annoying is in some who do carry to look down upon those of us who wish to not carry.

I dont carry a first aid kit in my car, I dont have a month's supply of food in my home.  I prefer to go every day to the store and buy what I need for that day or maybe a couple of days.  that's my choice and if you want to store more that is yours.

I believe in the second amendment, but I also believe it doesnt force me to own or carry anything in my possession.

semp

[Molsman]

compact 40 by Taurus hides well with anything I wear and not bulky

[OldNitro]

I carry a Novak's Custom shop, Browning Hi-power, + 2x15rd mags.
In a Kramer horsehide dropout, (butt down) shoulder holster.
Backup is a NAA .22mag mini revolver, in my bluejeans watch pocket..

[FLOOB]

Deplorables!

[AKIron]

I own a couple of guns and while I respect those who wish to carry, what I find annoying is in some who do carry to look down upon those of us who wish to not carry.

I dont carry a first aid kit in my car, I dont have a month's supply of food in my home.  I prefer to go every day to the store and buy what I need for that day or maybe a couple of days.  that's my choice and if you want to store more that is yours.

I believe in the second amendment, but I also believe it doesnt force me to own or carry anything in my possession.

semp

I can carry but often don't. When I see someone suffer a calamity that might have been avoided through care and planning I only tsk a little and am glad it wasn't me and try to learn from their mistake.

[guncrasher]

I can carry but often don't. When I see someone suffer a calamity that might have been avoided through care and planning I only tsk a little and am glad it wasn't me and try to learn from their mistake.

only time I have taken a weapon out of my house for protection was a few years ago when kermit came to visit after the chino airshow.  he left and mentioned he was gonna put gas, so I followed him just in case.   there had been a robbery at that gas station the week before, nobody got hurt.  but I did it anyway just in case.  in was like midnight.  he put gas and then he left.  I went home and played ah all night.


semp

[Shuffler]

I own a couple of guns and while I respect those who wish to carry, what I find annoying is in some who do carry to look down upon those of us who wish to not carry.

I dont carry a first aid kit in my car, I dont have a month's supply of food in my home.  I prefer to go every day to the store and buy what I need for that day or maybe a couple of days.  that's my choice and if you want to store more that is yours.

I believe in the second amendment, but I also believe it doesnt force me to own or carry anything in my possession.

semp

I don't imagine they really look down on you. They more than likely Mark you as a potential threat should things go to crap.
When you and your family are starving you will try anything to get food. That is what happens when you fail to prepare. Same as buying insurance. Do you not buy insurance too?