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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 05:39:58 AM »
Is there an opinion that the Yak 3 is somehow more durable than the Yak 9's in game?
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2017, 06:00:15 AM »
Is there an opinion that the Yak 3 is somehow more durable than the Yak 9's in game?
yes.
Yak9u is also very difficult to hit, but when it is hit, it seems to suffer structural damage more reliably. With the yak3 there seem to be much more scatter in the effects of hits, sometimes going to the extreme.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2017, 07:30:09 AM »
Why should HTC change the damage model for two planes that are almost (apart from shorter wings) identical?

Yak3 Dimensions: 
 Span  9.2m
 Length 8.55m
 Height 2.3m (inc landing gear)
 Wings area 14.4m^2
 
 Yak9u Dimensions: 
 Span  9.74m
 Length 8.55m
 Height 3m (inc landing gear)
 Wings area 17.2m^2

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2017, 11:15:49 AM »
Bruv is right about a certain pilot flying the 410  in supernatural ways. :headscratch:


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2017, 05:25:29 PM »
Maybe you guys are a bit paronoid about the damage on the yak3. I've never had a issue.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2017, 06:40:47 AM »
I think the Yak deserves a lower ENY in the 8-10 range but not a perk.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2017, 10:02:44 AM »
I think the problem most people have with the yak3 is that it seems to absorb way more damage than it should. It's a single engine Lancaster...


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2017, 01:33:50 PM »
because nobody flamed me for my post--I want to thank everyone for their remarks  THANKYOU
seems most of you agree something needs to be done with the YAK-3
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2017, 03:05:17 AM »
because nobody flamed me for my post--I want to thank everyone for their remarks  THANKYOU
seems most of you agree something needs to be done with the YAK-3
yes, but I do not think that something is a perk tag.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2017, 02:44:24 PM »
I don't think it needs perked. Just a much lower eny to start. It should be no higher than 8.


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2017, 06:49:16 PM »
The yak9u is a better overall plane.

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2017, 11:10:45 PM »
The yak9u is a better overall plane.

For experienced pilots. Which is the biggest problem most of us here on the boards have. We are a very small subset of the community, often very skilled in a particular area, or just in general, with years or decades of experience.

Our experience in the game is vastly different from the average stick. Most players struggle to consistently land, or even make kills. And as much as we may not like it at times, the game needs to be geared towards the average pilot, or the game will continue with population problems.


The fact is that, for how most players experience the fighter aspect of the game (find a fight, up from the nearest field, and attempt to engage contacts until dying) , the Yak 3 is a very accessible and easy fighter relative to much of the plane set.

It is very nimble and highly responsive in all control axes through a relatively wide speed band. It is fast, and has a stellar climb rate (and thus acceleration as well). It has top notch views (something most struggle with when starting). It is a small target, which is even better than durability for a new player, as they're going to give up a LOT of shots. And the limited ammunition doesn't really matter, because frankly they're not going to get many shots of their own, and statistically will die after their first kill if they even get that far.

Should it be perked? Probably not. It's one of those planes that's right on the edge, but doesn't quite make it. If anything, it would be a 1-2 perk ride, simply to prevent people using it as a suicide sled, and thats on the extreme end of things.


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2017, 12:22:22 AM »
It is very nimble and highly responsive in all control axes through a relatively wide speed band. It is fast, and has a stellar climb rate (and thus acceleration as well). It has top notch views (something most struggle with when starting). It is a small target, which is even better than durability for a new player, as they're going to give up a LOT of shots. And the limited ammunition doesn't really matter, because frankly they're not going to get many shots of their own, and statistically will die after their first kill if they even get that far.

Should it be perked? Probably not. It's one of those planes that's right on the edge, but doesn't quite make it. If anything, it would be a 1-2 perk ride, simply to prevent people using it as a suicide sled, and thats on the extreme end of things.


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2017, 09:09:05 AM »
I dont like the yak3 (as opposed to the 9's), but it does not deserve a perk tag. I'd perk the 3-gun LA7 way before the Yak3.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2017, 01:45:16 PM »
Yak-3s wings and fuselage where made to large extent of 1/16 inch plywood, the Yak-9 had metal wings.

IRL Yak-3 suffered from it's glued-on plywood covering the top of the wings to tear away under high-G loads.

The LA-7 with 3 guns where rare, still I have yet to meet a 2-gun LA-7 in AH, and should be perked, much like the Fw190-A12/13 (if it was in AH3) with its 30mm nose.mounted cannon.

I can run away from most spit's (except the Spit14), and its WEP time is short, the Yak's have infinite WEP,  its accelerates up to its max sped faster and can normally catch me in 109G's and 190A's because of that, it can follow a turning dive to 500 mph whereas the spit16/8/9 spit can't over 450 mph.




Why should HTC change the damage model for two planes that are almost (apart from shorter wings) identical?

Yak3 Dimensions: 
 Span  9.2m
 Length 8.55m
 Height 2.3m (inc landing gear)
 Wings area 14.4m^2
 
 Yak9u Dimensions: 
 Span  9.74m
 Length 8.55m
 Height 3m (inc landing gear)
 Wings area 17.2m^2
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 02:02:30 PM by save »
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