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Offline awrabbit

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whats up with the 0.50?
« on: March 05, 2017, 09:42:53 PM »
Anyone?

the wing mounted 0.50's are already at a disadvantage.  but, I am firing right at my convergence and rarely land a round into anything.

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2017, 10:00:20 PM »
By looking at the scoreboards your hit% .7 This shows your NOT hitting at convergence of anything else really  :)

I have a pretty poor aim, but it is getting better. Running film to watch later has helped a lot in seeing the distance I am shooting at. Also the lead is pretty deceptive. Im not sure if its the new graphics throwing off our "site pictures" of when we shoot, but I found I was not leading any where enough.

Practice, watch films, maybe even edit a gun site to find that aim point.

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 10:09:36 PM »
didnt have a problem firing today in my pony.


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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2017, 10:17:18 PM »
Fugitive,


I am doing horrible.  7% !

I have been working off line and watching my films.   if my convergence is at D-400 and I am firing at D-400 I should be able to hit the target dead 6.
working with lead I could see missing and shooting short.  but, I have tried leading way past the  target and letting the enemy fly into my rounds still very few strikes.
 

I was D-400 and dead 6 on several targets last night and all I had to do was pull up a little or push down a little and I could not manage a strike.


I dunno.....   maybe it is new graphics ?

its just prolly me I guess.  I used to land a lot more rounds back in AH2 though.
 
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2017, 10:38:49 PM »
Aw rabbit look again, your hit is 0.7% is less than 1  out of 100.

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2017, 12:20:02 AM »
I've bitten the bullet, and AH3 I start firing before convergence which uses up ammo but lands hits.

Make an appointment with morfiend or kingpin in the TA so that you can turn on the lead computing gunsight and they will let you throw rounds at them all night while giving you feedback.

My experience with AH2 vs AH3 is the timing is a tiny bit different. I've set the mil file number for my 100Mil ring to 272 from 256. Seems you need just a tad more lead on deflection shots. 5, 10, 20, 30 degrees off in AH2 are more like 8, 15, 27, 35 in AH3. I know nothing changed in the code per Hitech, so it must be me getting whiter in the beard..... :old:
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2017, 08:19:10 AM »
I couldn't hit a barn from the inside in AH2...still can't in AH3. I'm the epitome of consistency.


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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2017, 08:30:33 AM »
50cal is still the best gun platform in game. 

it works great.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2017, 12:08:18 PM »
50cal is still the best gun platform in game. 

it works great.

And by far the most accurate and consistent gun platform. Compare that to the 4 different types of 20mms which are have different trajectories against the .50 cal which is the same dead on accuracy no matter the aircraft it's mounted on.


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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2017, 02:16:22 PM »
50cal is still the best gun platform in game. 

it works great.
Probably. If they hit anywhere near as hard as they should.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2017, 02:29:13 PM »
 Save the film of each of your flights. Then go back afterwards and watch the films. After you've watched yourself shoot at an enemy plane,  then you can switch and look at it and see what it looks like from the point of view of the plane you are shooting at.   This tells you where your bullets are going compared to where you think they're going.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2017, 03:16:00 PM »
I think I am going to set up an off line mission tonight to practice, film and check my results. 


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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2017, 03:27:20 PM »
I think I am going to set up an off line mission tonight to practice, film and check my results. 


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I use a home made site. It has a a death dot in the "center" and 4 lines to help me get me dot lined up in a crossing shot. What I did was to drop the dot a number of pixels for the range I shoot at. If I sneak up on an AFK plane I can steady my pipped right where I want to hit and fire scoring hits right away with out flailing around. My ring is set so that in a crossing shot I need half a plane length more outside the ring for lead..... which is why I need the lines to be a bit more sure of their line of flight.

Film you fights/shots. Watch the films in super slow motion. Zooming in from an outside view you will be able to see where your tracers are going and so know how much and by which way (lead, or of the bullet drop due to gravity). Rewatch the film from the cockpit and see where you were aiming when you shot. Then you should be able to figure out the new aim points from there.

It takes time and a bunch of practice but it can be done. I think "average" hit %  (compiled by Lusche) is just about 1, so you are almost average  :D

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2017, 05:11:01 PM »
fugitive,

do ya have a copy of that sight so I can try it?

might be just what I need  :)
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2017, 05:36:48 PM »
Here is a reticle that has the level lead and banked lead lines for 80% of all shooting in the game 200-600. All of those years of gunsight research to produce the historic gunsights for the game didn't go to waste. If you film hours of chasing drones in the circle and distill it down, along with the pursuit curve info from the WW2 manuals, it comes down to this.


Download for the file at my google drive, just unzip both files to your sights directory:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwrokXEXneUQTm9DS2JlSmFDT2c


This is a 100Mil ring and dot defined by the primary angle of pursuit marks as a ring. The red line defined areas are 80% of the situations you will use in aiming during combat. To use it offline and prove it to yourself. Turn on the lead computing gunsight and film yourself shooting drones. Don't try to use the lines, just aim off the center dot in the normal manner you attack other planes. Because you will have the gunsight installed to the aircraft, your film playback on your PC will show that gunsight. Then you will see how all shooting takes place defined by those lines.


You can use this in the MA or just for training offline to review your films. Why is it green, turns out green works best for seeing your gunsight over a sea of red con's Icons and everything else in the game. Turn the alpha slider up full and you can use it unzoomed.





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