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Offline Devil 505

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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2017, 07:15:40 PM »
Go home, Bruv. You're drunk.  :devil

The 100C is no superweapon. It is slower than the Spit 1 at all alts under 26K - and even then the speed differential is about 10mph at the most. The turning circle is 1.5 times that of both the Spit and Hurricane. Also it's a huge target.

The Tempest was a much bigger threat in the last scenario by comparison.


Here's the good news for you though, if the last running of BoB as a scenario is any indication, then the only 110's will be be fighter-bombers of Eprobungsgruppe 210. Even with an additional squadron of pure fighter 110's there won't be too many out there to ruin your day.


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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2017, 07:34:44 PM »
The 100C is no superweapon. It is slower than the Spit 1 at all alts under 26K - and even then the speed differential is about 10mph at the most. The turning circle is 1.5 times that of both the Spit and Hurricane. Also it's a huge target.

Nose low, it will gain more speed than anything in the planeset from that period. Worse yet, it holds the E relatively well and can skip away. I'm a sucky stick, particularly with torque birds. In spite of this, in 2.5 frames I was able to score 23 kills, 3 assists, with just 1 death in frame 4 because the RAF was given SpitVs for that frame (and 6 kills were SpitVs) because the event was so one sided.


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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2017, 08:58:11 PM »
Which event was this?
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2017, 08:59:41 PM »
speaking of Spit V's,  whilst I''d rather see the ju88 removed and 110c limited.   

There may be an argument for the inclusion towards the latter segment! 
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2017, 10:26:57 PM »
nah exclude to 88s and leave the 110s alone.
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2017, 08:05:48 AM »
Del, you need to chill. You flew it once. In one BOB. Had success, now claim it's OP? I have flown it. A lot more than you, I'd wager. Over the years I've had successes with it in the LWA against late war monsters. I loved it so much I made 5 or 6 skins for it.

ANYTHING you're describing about the 110 can be done by ANY plane. Oh, so it's uber when the 110 keeps its speed and picks turn fighting spits? What about spits that keep their speed and pick 109Es that the hurricanes forced into a turn fight? I've played multiple BOBs and led one of them to victory. The 110 is a tool that can be used and its strengths are NOT its speed but rather its loitering ability. The 109s and 110s have the cannon option which RAF don't have in BOB. The 110 has a lot more ammo for theirs. That, alone, makes them useful. The 110 can't do what the spit can, but it can do it over England and stay up longer before it has to RTB. That is its power.

Seriously, this is a whole lot of fuss about a non-issue. Especially when 110s are so limited we'd be lucky to see a flight of even 6 of them during a scenario.

Further, your ad hominem attacks just show you don't have an argument other than "I said so! Anybody that disagrees is a jerk!"

I mean... seriously? Where the hell did that come from?  :uhoh

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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2017, 09:15:10 AM »
I for one can deal without the Ju-88's, but leave the 110. It makes a nice big fat target, and it make certainly makes intercepting the bombers more fun as well.
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2017, 09:52:34 AM »
Krusty. You've been flying these events for a long time right? You got the market cornered on that or something? I'll ask again as someone that has also flown a frame or two in my time. How many times has the RAF won a BoB? Hell how many FRAMES of ANY BoB have they won? The answers are never and maybe never. And you think things just aren't a little bit off? Really?

Look the fun of participating in these events evaporates rather quickly if things aren't close to competitive. It's one of the reasons this former die hard events guy has largely bailed from them.

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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2017, 01:07:24 PM »
Del, you need to chill. You flew it once. In one BOB. Had success, now claim it's OP? I have flown it. A lot more than you, I'd wager. Over the years I've had successes with it in the LWA against late war monsters. I loved it so much I made 5 or 6 skins for it.

You may be right and you may know about the 110 than anyone in the game, including me. However, I am not the only one to see the ability to disengage at will. If memory serves, Bruv had about 8-10k on me when he dove on me and still could not catch up.

Feel free to believe as you will, I know trying to change your mind about anything is a waste of time.

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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2017, 03:47:29 PM »
You don't like having an enemy that can disengage at will?

Try flying as Axis in every event set after 1942!  :bhead
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2017, 03:51:59 PM »
You don't like having an enemy that can disengage at will?

Try flying as Axis in every event set after 1942!  :bhead
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2017, 04:00:10 PM »
it's ok junky we are having some fun here.   :D

I'm not bothered about planes getting away it's just the historical application and the facts.   The 110 was a capable plane but they got shot down early on and withdrawn from the battle.   

I'd like to see no more than 4 of them tops if they are in for the whole 12 hours.   6 if they get withdrawn half way through. 

Maybe 6 SpitV's in the final 3 hours.     :D
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2017, 04:32:57 PM »
No MkVs.  :joystick:
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2017, 05:27:03 PM »
it's ok junky we are having some fun here.   :D

I'm not bothered about planes getting away it's just the historical application and the facts.   The 110 was a capable plane but they got shot down early on and withdrawn from the battle.   

I'd like to see no more than 4 of them tops if they are in for the whole 12 hours.   6 if they get withdrawn half way through. 

Maybe 6 SpitV's in the final 3 hours.     :D
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Re: It's coming this August...
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2017, 05:39:31 PM »
Nowotny would have been shot if he would have complained too much
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