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Offline molybdenum

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2017, 10:26:05 AM »
You want more players in the air?! Then prove it.. Let the defenders up off the runway... You can't vulch someone over and over and not let them get in the air and then complain when they don't up and jump into an M3s.. Especially when you come in 15. + Strong and defenders are 4... It maybe fun for cappers but I assure you it's not for the defenders

That nails it scott. The people who complain about m3 resups detracting from the combat aspect of the game are in large part the people who lurk in numbers over runways and vulch hapless uppers. And/or they have been playing many years and honed their flying skills to a knife's edge, people against whom poor fighter pilots like myself have little chance of defeating. I want to help my team, but I'm not upping into that. I'll resup or try to get the bad guys' VH; usually resup, because the need for speed is critical.
Let me make this clear though: I have no problem with people vulching a runway in association with a base take try. It's a legitimate aspect of the game. But defenders need an option if they want to save their base. Resup is key in that regard. If the vulching crew doesn't like it then one of them should tear himself away from the joy of easy kills and kill the VH from which m3s spawn instead. Not try to deny to people like me the parts of the game we find engaging. Or whine that we're slithering around snake-like because we're not upping and giving them easy kills.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2017, 10:37:47 AM »
Guess what everyone, troops gone from M3 means you cannot take a base since it was the only thing that could carry troops!  AH is DOOMED!!!

Because that's what some of these arguments look like to me. :rolleyes:
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2017, 10:42:44 AM »
That nails it scott. The people who complain about m3 resups detracting from the combat aspect of the game are in large part the people who lurk in numbers over runways and vulch hapless uppers. And/or they have been playing many years and honed their flying skills to a knife's edge, people against whom poor fighter pilots like myself have little chance of defeating. I want to help my team, but I'm not upping into that. I'll resup or try to get the bad guys' VH; usually resup, because the need for speed is critical.
Let me make this clear though: I have no problem with people vulching a runway in association with a base take try. It's a legitimate aspect of the game. But defenders need an option if they want to save their base. Resup is key in that regard. If the vulching crew doesn't like it then one of them should tear himself away from the joy of easy kills and kill the VH from which m3s spawn instead. Not try to deny to people like me the parts of the game we find engaging. Or whine that we're slithering around snake-like because we're not upping and giving them easy kills.

Lol i figured your post was directed at me..the last line confirmed it.  I dont vulch people for the hell of it.. kills mean literally nothing to me in this game anymore.  I do vulch after i help WF a town and all the dweebs come out in their 5 ENY aircraft.

Im sorry you arent very good at defending a base.. maybe bombing strats is something better for you.  What i can tell you is when this game was heavily populated.. resupply wasnt even an option.  People fought.  Fought to keep a cap off their base.  Fought to get to get off the field and kill a goon.


There are hundreds of options for you to participate in this game,   id like to think you can figure it out.

FYI.. the supplys are still available in m3s so you dont need to create a shade ID and tell us you quit,  not yet anyways.

You sound like babies.  "Im going to quit if I dont get it my way."

All i am doing with my posts in these threads is make an argument for things that unbalance gameplay and really dont make sense to me.  I have yet to see any response rather than a form of saying " i dont want to fight".

I have never once mentioned quitting if those things dont change.  Believe me, i can pop m3s with the best of them, i can adapt to gamey tactics and pop m3s right as they spawn, but if you think new younger folks are going to come here and pay14.95 to shoot your Fed-Ex truck.... you are sadly mistaken.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2017, 10:46:11 AM »
Vulching isn't going to go away. The bigger issue is when you have People who lift off from a contested field and are not vulched. You let them climb out untouched and as soon as you try to engage they dive straight back to their ack. Rinse and repeat.


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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2017, 10:50:12 AM »
... but if you think new younger folks are going to come here and pay14.95 to shoot your Fed-Ex truck.... you are sadly mistaken.


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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2017, 12:29:10 PM »
Been gone a few weeks, and don't feel like reading the whole thread....Can someone give me the cliff notes version?
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2017, 12:45:08 PM »
HT disabled troops via M3 for reasons unknown, and a bunch of people have given their speculation on what's going on and why he did it.

It sure seems odd to me because I don't see a problem it solves, and it barely changes gameplay.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2017, 12:46:51 PM »
Been gone a few weeks, and don't feel like reading the whole thread....Can someone give me the cliff notes version?

M3 has temporarily lost its troop carrying capacity, leaving SdKfz, LVT, Jeep, C-47 for that job. "Forum whiners" getting accused for this. Multiple threats to leave the game with about no substantial complaints, just a lot of "it sucks, because of the whiners". Forum lights up with the same old 'furballers' vs 'basegrabbers' nonsense.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #84 on: October 02, 2017, 12:48:06 PM »
It sure seems odd to me because I don't see a problem it solves, and it barely changes gameplay.

Which makes the "I quit" threats even more puzzling to me. So far, nobody of them pointet out  real, substantial problems with it.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #85 on: October 02, 2017, 12:53:04 PM »
Which makes the "I quit" threats even more puzzling to me. So far, nobody of them pointet out  real, substantial problems with it.

The tone I've seen is because they're Paying Customers(tm) and they want to know why!

Or they believe the vast furballer conspiracy (or better yet the anti-their-country conspiracy) got their way at their expense.  From what I've seen out of HT I've never once seen him cave to a forum whine for no good reason, but arguing that point is futile.  People have their opinions and that's that.

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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2017, 12:55:48 PM »
Or they believe the vast furballer conspiracy (or better yet the anti-their-country conspiracy) got their way at their expense.


I think it's just that.
For days I have been asking what the real problem is, only to get "I can't drive m3 with troops" as an answer - at best. Most of the time it's along the line of "I'm angry because HT gave in to the forum whiners". Which didn't ask for troop removal.


And sorry, I don't believe there are so many players who came to AH just to drive the iconic M3, and nothing else.
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2017, 02:21:00 PM »
Heard in tower when I logged on today...."what is a 251?" :rofl

When HTC posted those percentages of how often all the planes/GVs are used I don't think he knew what the percentage was for m3s as far as troops vs supplies and maybe this is the only way he can test it. Wouldn't be surprised if he is using this to make his decision of whether or not to change it or maybe by how much it should be changed.

And people who keep talking about the "whiners about M3s" we were all talking specifically about the field supply
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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2017, 02:23:05 PM »
Hmmm...seems odd for sure

Thanks for the heads up, appreciate it Wiley and Snailman   :aok


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Re: m3 without troops.. you missed the point
« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2017, 02:37:13 PM »
I'm sure I'll be sandblasted for saying this but I find the M3/no-troops thing kind of refreshing.  If for no other reason, it requires a change in tactics to get the same job done, makes game play a bit less formulaic or stale.  And who doesn't love driving a jeep?

I don't think it's valid to task the vulching hordes with hunting down the resupp M-3s if they don't like it, then be upset when a game changes requires the M-3 troop drivers to do the very same thing.  Just play with what the game gives you to play with.