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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2017, 06:29:58 PM »
I didn't read anywhere in Dawger's posts where he was attacking or berating anyone or Aces High in this thread, so why are y'all doing it towards him?

sometimes it is the actions by players in this community that causes others to pack up and leave.....
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2017, 10:11:29 PM »
Only thing WT really has is the massive variety of planes and country represtentation.

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The system that closely matches them up: A majority of the planes in WT would end up as hanger queens here.

You mean false matchups? Like as soon as you get to Fw190s you get mythic planes ruling the tier and owning the skies? You mean paper designs that never saw the light of day? You mean artificialy fluffing aircraft lines and padding them across multiple tiers where they are outmatched JUST to pad the planeset to make it look like there's something there? When there's no difference AT ALL in how the play across 3 tiers of ranks?

You mean how you can't get to 1944 without fantasy jets and F8F bearcats owning the entire skies?

You mean how there is no middle game and you lose any pretense at balance past tier 1?

You mean how they give one nation a plane, then pad another nation with the same plane, but move it up a tier for no reason?



You cannot make any claims that WT has a more fleshed out planeset or any kind of balance -- the utter lack of balance and horrific imbalance and fake made-up flight models to pad fantasy planesets rammed into a line up JUST to make it seem like there's some kind of equivelant planes there even though there never would have been in reality is what has driven so many serious flight sim players from the game.

WT is 90% steer poop. Pure and simple. They do it that way intentionally to pad out their grind-fest game because they make MONEY off of people unlocking upgrades for planes (which just makes them 100% pure fantasy performance planes anyways, regardless of which tier they are mis-placed in).

If you even pretend that there's any kind of better representation of nations I dare you to look at Japanese and the newly-included Italian lineups. Puh-leeze. Get real.
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2017, 10:21:47 PM »
Does WT still have the aim/flight assist control system?
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2017, 10:53:23 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UhKLU0iNoU

haha love to imagine u old farts listening to this
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2017, 11:50:45 PM »
You mean false matchups? Like as soon as you get to Fw190s you get mythic planes ruling the tier and owning the skies? You mean paper designs that never saw the light of day? You mean artificialy fluffing aircraft lines and padding them across multiple tiers where they are outmatched JUST to pad the planeset to make it look like there's something there? When there's no difference AT ALL in how the play across 3 tiers of ranks?

You mean how you can't get to 1944 without fantasy jets and F8F bearcats owning the entire skies?

You mean how there is no middle game and you lose any pretense at balance past tier 1?

You mean how they give one nation a plane, then pad another nation with the same plane, but move it up a tier for no reason?



You cannot make any claims that WT has a more fleshed out planeset or any kind of balance -- the utter lack of balance and horrific imbalance and fake made-up flight models to pad fantasy planesets rammed into a line up JUST to make it seem like there's some kind of equivelant planes there even though there never would have been in reality is what has driven so many serious flight sim players from the game.

WT is 90% steer poop. Pure and simple. They do it that way intentionally to pad out their grind-fest game because they make MONEY off of people unlocking upgrades for planes (which just makes them 100% pure fantasy performance planes anyways, regardless of which tier they are mis-placed in).

If you even pretend that there's any kind of better representation of nations I dare you to look at Japanese and the newly-included Italian lineups. Puh-leeze. Get real.

Like how if you try to queue up your I-15 for RB that you'll almost constantly run into things like Spit 5's with quad 20's and such? :noid  Queue up a G5N or G8N... :bhead
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2017, 01:22:34 AM »
I would be very very interested in what you son likes about WT vs AH.

HiTech

Anybody with mouse only control can get into the game and have fun instantly.

No need to buy joystick, subscribe to payment plan and go through long learning curve.

Add on top of this quite good 3D graphics with lots of eye candies, tons of available planes and GVs and you can see how the game can be quite addictive   for thousands of people who play it now.

Nothing wrong with it. For the same reason so many people play World of Warships and World of Tanks having lots of fun.

HTC is struggling in bringing new players into the game but the solution is simple. Move existing subscribers to two countries (Bishops and Knights) and open one country (Rooks) for 500+ new players with mouse control only on free to play basis and it will be fun again. As soon as people from WT will discover the big-scale non-stop war on AH arenas they will start migrating to AH naturally, so there will be no need on spending money on ads. (There will be need for buying new servers soon though).




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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2017, 01:32:52 AM »
its all about pimps, give free subs to me, dr bone , eeehhh who else? yeah TKO from the jokers and maybe this game will get some sugar (cant forget bone  doing  loops 30 feet radius dat fm´s dog...)
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2017, 03:33:50 AM »
love ah btw, at least when people all over the world played it and graced us with their uniqueness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdVukRE7wA
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2017, 04:38:39 AM »
Dale... Wyatt flies both AH and WT.    him and I have sat down and talked about it this may times.  he is a member of forum also.

he likes AH's FM but, gripes about the Eye Candy AH "its not as "shiny and blingy". and he REALLY likes the diversity of more aircraft of WT.  he is challenged by the learning curve in AH but, appreciates it.  he whines about the FM in WT and what he calls random nerfing of different air frames.

he is 14 years old and has a couple thousand hours in WT(been flying WT for 3 years) vs only a few hundred in AH for the most part the Eye candy and the need for a Jet arena as well as the graphics still look dated.

I agree on some points.  we both prefer the AH Game structure over WT along with  other features AH has to offer.

He would be thrilled to talk with you in detail.  PM for our number.

I agree with your son that we needs more jets especially the meteor!!   
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2017, 08:06:33 AM »
".....and he REALLY likes the diversity of more aircraft of WT."

This is how I feel about AH.   Huge lack of diversity on aircraft........follow questionable FM of some planes, weak .50 cals and overkill of 20 and 30 mm.   
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2017, 08:54:29 AM »
More version of current models in AH have been asked for at a number of times, gives more diversity for less effort.
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2017, 09:05:22 AM »
Not that I'm against more models at all...

But I doubt that has anything significant to do with player aquisition and retention. If you are new, the 124 existing models should keep you occupied for quite some time. Most of the long time players rarely stray from the same dozen types they are usually flying/driving.
And the 36 new models of planes and GV (not counting the updated ones) apparently had no influence on player numbers either, not even those which turned out to be more popular ones.

I doubt someone is not playing AH only because he can't fly a Bf 104F4/Trop or a Beaufighter.
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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2017, 09:10:03 AM »
love ah btw, at least when people all over the world played it and graced us with their uniqueness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdVukRE7wA

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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2017, 09:15:12 AM »
Ironically if many of the obscure planes were remived nobody would notice. I think there should be more incentive for people to use a wider variety of planes (without forcing them to do so). The question is how do you incentivize it effectively?

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Re: Thanks War Thunder!
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2017, 09:16:27 AM »
Not that I'm against more models at all...

But I doubt that has anything significant to do with player aquisition and retention. If you are new, the 124 existing models should keep you occupied for quite some time. Most of the long time players rarely stray from the same dozen types they are usually flying/driving.
And the 36 new models of planes and GV (not counting the updated ones) apparently had no influence on player numbers either, not even those which turned out to be more popular ones.

I doubt someone is not playing AH only because he can't fly a Bf 104F4/Trop or a Beaufighter.


I think you missed the point.   
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