The M3 experiment is over.

[Lusche]

Now that tour 213 is finished (and thus the only full tour in which the M3had its troops removed), we can take a look at how it affected captures:





As you can see, the results are much less dramatic that some players tried to make us believe at the beginning.


And yes, I have abandoned my AH stats thread, because it makes no sense featuring a thread with hundreds of "your link is no longer available". So I will just go back to post stuff here and there again.

[JunkyII]

I want to know what the decrease in use of the M3 was during the tour compared to when they could carry troops.....From the amount of them I saw I would say they are still the most used GV in the game.

[Lusche]

.From the amount of them I saw I would say they are still the most used GV in the game.

By sorties, I am utterly convinced it is. But only HTC could post the actual sortie data 

[SmokinLoon]

I'd like to think that HTC could mix up the involvement of troops a bit more. Vary the amount of troops that can be carried. Maybe introduce a truck that can go 50 mph and carry 10 troops. Have the M3 carry 10 troops with the .50 HMG, but obviously it is slower (no change there). Give the SdKfz a broader and more useful role (not sure). The jeep... keep as is. Eetc etc.

Just not enough options, imo. 

[Delirium]

I know it does not reflect sortie information, but the M3 still had 1466 deaths in October vs 4552 deaths in September. If you consider that the M3 could potentially "land" in town, 1466 is a lot of usage for a vehicle that just delivers supplies.

The German halftrack went from 276 to 2562 deaths from September to October. Comparing the increase in sorties of the German halftrack to the M3 decline, the difference is about 1990, very close to the deaths the M3 had in October (again, the difference could be affected by landing out in town).

[hitech]

Here is the stats of the M3

[wil3ur]

So an overall slight increase in usage for C47 and Jeeps because people couldn't bring themselves to use the SDK... that showed a pretty good jump, giving a gauge on how much M3's are actually used for troops... and so now we know that 50% of all M3 missions are in the tank killer roll!    

[DubiousKB]

Here is the stats of the M3
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Or am I on the wrong track? 

How did your experiment turn out? Conclusions everyone?

[Mano]

The SDK needs a turbo charger     

[Wiley]

We need a faster supply carrier so the M3 doesn't get used so much?

Wiley.

[Lusche]

We need a faster supply carrier so the M3 doesn't get used so much?

Au contraire. We may need a slower one *looks at SdKfz* 

[Becinhu]

Au contraire. We may need a slower one *looks at SdKfz* 

This! And maybe.....just maybe...people will actually defend a base instead of a giant mass of supply carriers.


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[Lazerr]

We need a faster supply carrier so the M3 doesn't get used so much?

Wiley.

NOT a good joke. 

[bustr]

A good test for say December, add a GMC CCKW to the vehicle inventory and only "allow it" to run field supplies. It's a softer target than an M3, SdK or LVT. It might give a better view on just how much players want to run supplies to win a fight versus fight to win a fight.


https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cargo-truck-3d-model/807560

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3dsmax-gmc-cckw-cargo-truck/747368

[JunkyII]

Here is the stats of the M3
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Hi-tech, don't know if you saw Lusche's idea from the other thread but disabling Field supply in the M3 and making the 251 the only ground vehicle that can resupply seems like a great way to balance the game and also get a hangar queen more use.