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Offline bustr

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2018, 02:06:41 PM »
Almost sounds like moving back to simpler easy to take down objects might increase activity with our smaller numbers. Then you have a Catch-22 that base grabbing is easier and making one population segment happier. While another is angry at Hitech for the perception he has made them super runway vulch bait and it's not worth upping past a certain point in a field attack. I seem to remember when we had less ack on fields and players were PO'd about being vulch bait back then.

The current field and town objects along with the capture requirements, 10 years ago would have slowed down the hoard steam rollers back then. So from 15 years of observation, the objects we have today aside from simply cosmetic upgrades for the times, are a response to lessons learned by Hitech about game play in the MA over time. That extreme of game play brought on by an average population size of 300-400 is not as prevalent today due to our low population in the MA. A beginning edge of a critical mass and change in MA population activity patterns towards classic hoarding starts at about 200 players. At 200 which is still low numbers, do you want the activity uptick that inspires more activity or, do you want to hold them back becasue of things that happened in the past which the new objects and their function requirements are designed to do?

My last two terrains I've been experimenting with this concept by placing as a majority, small air fields all over the terrains along with reduced transit distances between fields to reduce the amount of effort to capture territory. A few nights it looks like too little too late as the crickets serenade me. Then the rest of the time there are good activity levels for the numbers carrying on past prime time for a few hours. This holds constant with both of my terrains which I biased with a majority small airfields and shortened distances between fields. The few medium and large fields I placed on each of my terrains slows down game play like I intended for those objects to do at the locations I placed them. Hitech likes tangible data of some kind to back up our assertions to him I have noticed over the years.

So a general simplification of the town and field objects for destruction and capture may not be a bad thing towards generating activity given our current average prime time numbers in the MA. A simplification will probably resonate with the newer game playing demographic because it will be easier to accomplish "something". Our training crucible for new players way back when was the mission hoard and how it protected newer players while they learned. It's not like loosing feilds will keep an air combat centrist player from getting his plane into the air and at red guys. Or a GVer from sneaking into a town. It probably means the current terrain would get rotated faster. 
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2018, 07:25:06 PM »
Am I to understand this is yet another thread about the displeasure of people running M3s to resup rather than upping from a capped field only to be vulched picked hoed ganged up on and die before getting up off the runway? Then the horde wonders why no one is upping to promote air combat? Or have I misunderstood ?? IMHO if you are actually trying to take the base anything goes to prevent defenders from getting to town to kill the troops... The same goes for defending which includes M3 resup missions when upping aircraft only results in instant death and score padding.. Sometimes the enemy doesn't want the base only wants to furball which is fine if they let you up
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2018, 07:43:51 PM »
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There has been a departure from "some" fun aspects in the game, in favor of "some" more challenging aspects of the game....

I just wish that portion of the "game" would be nudged in favor of the lonely fighter wishing to experience more air conflict.

The shiny ground objects with wheels or sometimes tracks, would be much better serve the active roll of combat if they were needed to cut off troop advance from C47s or M3s, rather than deliver time warp magical dust from Merlin the Wizard.

(Well, at least it sounded nicer in my head).

Been saying the same thing for quite a few years now in game.  How can they tout themselves as a realistic WW2 air war, when the invisible GV's ruin the furballs?  :cheers:
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2018, 09:31:23 PM »
Am I to understand this is yet another thread about the displeasure of people running M3s to resup rather than upping from a capped field only to be vulched picked hoed ganged up on and die before getting up off the runway? Then the horde wonders why no one is upping to promote air combat? Or have I misunderstood ?? IMHO if you are actually trying to take the base anything goes to prevent defenders from getting to town to kill the troops... The same goes for defending which includes M3 resup missions when upping aircraft only results in instant death and score padding.. Sometimes the enemy doesn't want the base only wants to furball which is fine if they let you up

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #79 on: February 10, 2018, 10:13:38 PM »
AMEN!    Goes along with the supra-geniuses that try whimper and complain about "Bomb and Bail" buff drivers   .... thinly disguised as "Hey!  you ruined my chance to get 3 free kills to pad my manly fighter score".

Guys diving in on my buffs don't get easy kills.

The point is, jumping in to an M3 to resupply SHOULDNT be your first choice

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2018, 10:24:15 PM »
Guys diving in on my buffs don't get easy kills.

The point is, jumping in to an M3 to resupply SHOULDNT be your first choice

Maye not 'first choice', but still a choice.

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2018, 11:18:37 PM »
Guys diving in on my buffs don't get easy kills.

The point is, jumping in to an M3 to resupply SHOULDNT be your first choice
When a base is being horded and one dies multiple times, and the only other alternative is to up from  different base, only to arrive at a newly captured base, you think I shouldn't get in an M3? Please pay my damned subscription then. You want me to play your way? pay me.
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2018, 11:20:51 PM »
When a base is being horded and one dies multiple times, and the only other alternative is to up from  different base, only to arrive at a newly captured base, you think I shouldn't get in an M3? Please pay my damned subscription then. You want me to play your way? pay me.

Grow a pair and up from a different base BEFORE its too late and fight for your base.

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2018, 11:32:55 PM »
Grow a pair and up from a different base BEFORE its too late and fight for your base.

Damn right.

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2018, 11:34:38 PM »
Grow a pair and up from a different base BEFORE its too late and fight for your base.
Fugitive, I respect your time and contribution to the game, but frankly, if I want to up an M3 and resupply a base, I will. Your "suggestions" as to how anyone else should or could play are yours. I will play the way I want, and those who complain constantly about things that don't need changing only make me more determined to do it my way. Thank you, though, for your kind suggestions about what I should do in the game I pay to play.
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2018, 11:36:12 PM »
An M3 that is supplying the field you are trying to defend is not helping?
Now I am baffled.

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2018, 02:22:20 AM »
More than 1 person should up bombers and take out VHs at various bases to slow down resupply by gvs, oh....... forgot you dont get fighter perks points and your name in lights  for that do you.

There is a core set of players who try and do this, and they are not the ones who have not logged on for 6 months and whine like Rosie O’Donnell.

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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2018, 03:02:11 AM »
The last time I played you could take out any hanger in a single pass with something like an F6F-5.  Voila!  No more M-3's.  Next.
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2018, 04:50:44 AM »
The last time I played you could take out any hanger in a single pass with something like an F6F-5.  Voila!  No more M-3's.  Next.
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Re: How can this be put nicely?
« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2018, 09:07:02 AM »
The last time I played you could take out any hanger in a single pass with something like an F6F-5.  Voila!  No more M-3's.  Next.

The problem is that when the numbers are low there are not enough players on to attack, defend, AND pork.