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Offline Vraciu

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2018, 08:09:35 AM »
Check the noise layers at full power. I'm sure you'll find one piece has a lighter section at the seam and it's counterpart is darker on it's side of the seam. Try inverting the layer on one part to see if it helps.

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2018, 11:22:19 AM »
How does that nose 3D shape look with those colors if you take your screen shot inside of a test terrain?
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2018, 01:37:48 PM »
Here's an earlier 352nd P-51B in the blue color you were doing for the P-51D. Not sure if this helps...

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2018, 02:23:40 PM »
How does that nose 3D shape look with those colors if you take your screen shot inside of a test terrain?

It looks darker, but depending how reflective you make the paint via the spec maps you will see the bend. 

I can mitigate that with the anti-glare panel but it’s pretty much impossible on a same -color nose.   I will post a screenshot.   



Here's an earlier 352nd P-51B in the blue color you were doing for the P-51D. Not sure if this helps...
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It all helps.  Much appreciated. 


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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2018, 07:19:49 PM »
I think this is close for the DARK blue.  I'll get the lighter down later.

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2018, 07:52:55 PM »
The shade looks better but you still need to desaturate it. Far too bold.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2018, 07:53:35 PM »
The shade looks better but you still need to desaturate it. Far too bold.

I will work on that.  At least we are in the ballpark.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2018, 08:02:35 PM »
How does that nose 3D shape look with those colors if you take your screen shot inside of a test terrain?

Here is where it is located.  How visible it is depends on a lot of factors.





Flattening the paint lets you hide it.   With an anti-glare panel you can eliminate it entirely but that means no reflection.  So it's a matter of dialing up the reflection right to the point where you can almost see the bend.

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2018, 09:09:47 PM »
The blue paint in all the reference photos look pretty flat anyway, so I'd got with that finish.

Also, that 's not a bit map seam you're pointing to, just a polygon corner, so do not mess with the noise maps in that area.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2018, 09:22:16 PM »
The blue paint in all the reference photos look pretty flat anyway, so I'd got with that finish.

I'll try that.  Thanks.


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Also, that 's not a bit map seam you're pointing to, just a polygon corner, so do not mess with the noise maps in that area.

I realize it is a part of the 3D model shape and that there are multiple things happening there where the nose parts come together with the fuselage.   Lots of complex curves there.   I'll show you what it looks like on the 2D.   As I have it the noise layers are standard per what you gave me except I deleted them in some of these spots and added noise to the paint itself.



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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2018, 09:27:52 PM »

I'm still working out the coloring.  Then I can tweak the panel lines.




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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2018, 12:40:07 AM »
Looking better all the time I think.  :aok

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2018, 10:11:16 AM »
Looking better all the time I think.  :aok

Thanks bruh. 

BTW, that pic Guppy found of the plane is a goodmine off info.  Is there a higher res version out there anywhere?

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