Whoever the TOD 2 CM/Target assigner is:

[SOB]

Rip, what Fatty said, I couldn't have said it better.  You pointed out something that was wrong, if the CMs didn't or weren't able to fix it by frame start, take your lumps and fly the damned mission anyway.  Then email them your film of the evening if you were right.  This event depends on all squads doing their best to show up and pulling your whole squad out of the night just because the mission doesn't suit you is a real amazinhunk thing to do to the rest of the squads participating and the CMs who do put a lot of work into this.

Sorry if that sounds harsh man, but that's just how I see it...regardless of what communications you've had with the CMs about this.  Also I doubt anyone, including me, wants to see you quit flying the TOD.  You'll be missed if you do.


SOB

[Ripsnort]

Ghost:"Loseing your cool and insulting CM's ALWAYS is and ALWAYS will be a problem."
 

Originally posted by banana:
Rip, why do you always go for the theatrical extreme right away?

Who insulted who ghost?

Ghost:Rip once I said I was on it that should have been the END of this thread.

Couldn't agree more. The problem was posted as resolve, til the Butt-in-ski came along.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

i understand Rip not wanting to fly the mission, after all this is TOD, our pleasure comes from landing. On the other hand, my KI group was assigned to CAP SE, guess what, after 1h10 of circling with no eni inseight, we took on our own to try to move to a battle area.
We arrived at P55 just in time to engage 3 Corsairs runing home.
Ever been in the military Ripsnort? I was and trust me, sometimes orders didn't really made sense. In the comandoes, "thinking was already disobeing", and some missions just call for "do it and shut up, because you don't have all the cards in hand, you don't see the big picture". But like funked said, if it's a suicide mission, nobody ever got mad at me for saving assets and diverting from my mission. (I was an Lt, so I was the one who had to explain why I took initiatives, explain to the guys on the top, and explain to my platoon too).

[Wanker]

From: Nelson, Brian G
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:52 AM
> > To: 10BEARS; AH1G; BLITZ; Blueice; CAVALEAR; CraigUS; F4UDOA; GIJeff;
> > GUNSLAYER; JAYBONE; Mickey; MOX; MRPLUTO; OCTAVIUS; PHANTOM4; RANGERBOB;
> > RIPSNORT; SWOOPGB; WARCHILD; ZIPPATUH
> > Subject: Okay need advice before I get REALLY angry
> >
> > First, the task of taking a F6F hellcat HEAVY for Hangars at A33 from a CV
> > launched in 6.6 grid of the Mindano map with 1.5 modifier fuel is
> > impossible, the trip is 550 miles RT. I did some off line testing and
> > used the following parameters:
> >
> > F6F 100% fuel, 2X1000 lb. bombs
> > Fuel Modifier at 1.5 (TOD modifier)
> > Launched from CV at 6.6.9 (per orders)
> > Destination was A33.
> > Miles was 550 round trip.
> >
> > Results:
> > 1/3 fuel left in Main tanks after climbing out to 25,000 feet once I got
> > to target. No fuel for return trip. Repeated scenario at fuel modifier
> > at 1.0. Result was falling short of RTB by 50 miles and that was without
> > using any WEP.
> >
> > Even with a single DT, and at 1.0 modifier, we cannot fulfill our mission
> > goals, that means carrying no bombs, our mission goal is to bomb the
> > hangars.
> >
> > Now, read this thread:
> > http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=54&t  
> > =000072
> >
> >
> > Gentlemen, I want us to stand down because the CM's cannot pull their
> > heads out of their bellybutton long enough to see that they are assigning a target
> > that is impossible to do.
> >
> > Feedback requested.
> > Brian G. Nelson
> >
> >
> >

Hmmm...indeed, "who insulted whom?"

[ 09-09-2001: Message edited by: banana ]

[Dinger]

As an aside, with a fuel multiplier, climbing to 25k is going to impair your range seriously, particularly if you're lifting bombs to that altitude.  Sometimes CMs look to design things so that it's not Alt-Monkey City.  

[Firecat]

Everything aside, it doesn't seem right (IMO) to post someone's private work contact information...especially with the number of hosers we've seen around in recent months...

-Firecat

[WarChild]

REMOVE THAT THREAD RIGHT NOW banana. YOU HAVE NO diddlyING RIGHT TO TAKE AN INTERNAL EMAIL AND BLAST IT OUT IN PUBLIC... THAT TEXT HAS PERSONAL CONTACT INFO...

REMOVE IT

sweet jesus man... you'd post contact info just to prove your more right.. WAKE UP and edit the post.