Can we talk about this C-130 crash?

[Puma44]

I witnessed a fatal stall, spin and burn crash.  I also helped put the fire out, recovered the remains and did the report on the crash.  After getting back to the station a few hours later I get a call from a newspaper reporter wanting to interview me.  I explained that I would be happy to talk to her BUT department policy required it to be approved thru management.  She came back with "But you witnessed the crash didn't you?" to which I responded yes and told her to get approval thru the boss and we could talk.

The next day when I get to work at 4PM I have to see the Chief first thing who starts chewing my butt for talking to the press....he shows me the article in which I was quoted as saying a bunch of crap I didn't say and wouldn't have used the terms used in the article.

When I called the paper several times over the next few days the reporter "wasn't available".  That was in 1980, I still won't buy their newspaper.

What kind of aircraft?

[MiloMorai]

So 'fake news' has been around for some time.

[DmonSlyr]

You had friendlies all over the place, bruh.  We were fighting our way out of a beehive.   Five of us were in that area and only two of us made it home.   Some days you are the dog, some days you are the hydrant.

Sawzaw got ganged 3:1 before I could get to him.  I haven't seen him complaining on the boards about it.

That's simply not true...I'm just giving you a hard time about it becuase you were apart of it. I'm not mad about it, though dissapointed in that gameplay and wanted to pressure you about it. I also am the one who killed Sawzaw and he started on my 6 in his P51B, got reversed hard and died 1v1. Infact his squady pulled off thinking Saw had it.... I know what happened haha.

[Vraciu]

That's simply not true...I'm just giving you a hard time about it becuase you were apart of it. I'm not mad about it, though dissapointed in that gameplay and wanted to pressure you about it. I also am the one who killed Sawzaw and he started on my 6 in his P51B, got reversed hard and died 1v1. Infact his squady pulled off thinking Saw had it.... I know what happened haha.

It is very MUCH true.   We had bad guys everywhere.   The only reason we even got home is because after we lost them, the next group we ran into was either out of gas or scared.

Sawzaw killed two of your friends before you got him for a total of four.   

FSO is a confusing environment.   Lots of stuff going on with very little reliable information coming in.   That last fight over your base was a lot bigger than you realize.

22:13:21 Departed from Field #4 in a P-51D
23:02:10 Shot down a Bf 109K-4 flown by Batz.
23:43:25 Shot down a Bf 109K-4 flown by Violator.
23:46:43 Helps DamPhyNo shoot down Rodeo.
23:55:05 Arrived Safely at Field #23

The only help I had with a victory was on Batz.   Looks like my kill on you was a clean one.

Meanwhile you were still fighting after Saw went in.  So it was prudent to take you out by any means necessary.

Violator
22:05:17 Departed from Field #35 in a Bf 109K-4
22:55:58 Shot down a P-47D-25 flown by SKHammer.
23:03:53 Shot down a P-51B flown by BigKev03.
23:06:13 Shot down a P-51D flown by Drano.
23:10:37 Takes on fuel/ammo/ord at field #35.
23:27:24 Shot down a P-47D-25 flown by KB.
23:35:59 Shot down a P-51B flown by Sawzaw.
23:39:28 Shot down a P-51D flown by APDrone.
23:43:25 Was shot down by Vraciu (exploded).

[colmbo]

Colombo.   I was 150 miles west of Anchorage at Sparrevon AFB from December 1975 to December 1976.

Wow.  You know how to party!!

[colmbo]

What kind of aircraft?

Super Cub on floats.  The guy took off without clearance and it's speculated that perhaps he stressed over that then turned to hard.

I just happen to look up as he was in the left turn and it was the classic spin entry to the left.  He was only about 300-500 feet, I had no doubt he would crash and was enroute in my patrol car.  He did 1 1/2 to 2 turns then went behind trees....a few seconds later the fireball and smoke came rolling up.  Once the first crash truck got there (a quick response rig with dry chemical and foam) I grabbed the line and started working the fire even though it was obvious no one had survived.  There was a couple of explosions as we approached with a big fireballs as we fought the fire and later as we went through the wreckage he had four 5 gallon gas cans (metal) in the rear seat area.  We could tell that two had ruptured explaining the explosions we noted.  He was 35 years old and to this day I remember his name.

[Puma44]

Super Cub on floats.  The guy took off without clearance and it's speculated that perhaps he stressed over that then turned to hard.

I just happen to look up as he was in the left turn and it was the classic spin entry to the left.  He was only about 300-500 feet, I had no doubt he would crash and was enroute in my patrol car.  He did 1 1/2 to 2 turns then went behind trees....a few seconds later the fireball and smoke came rolling up.  Once the first crash truck got there (a quick response rig with dry chemical and foam) I grabbed the line and started working the fire even though it was obvious no one had survived.  There was a couple of explosions as we approached with a big fireballs as we fought the fire and later as we went through the wreckage he had four 5 gallon gas cans (metal) in the rear seat area.  We could tell that two had ruptured explaining the explosions we noted.  He was 35 years old and to this day I remember his name.

Wow!  I’m sure that’s unforgettable.

[DmonSlyr]

I couldn't imagine seeing a crash like that. It's truely devistating.

 I wanted to bring some attention to this because it has been happening quite frequently lately. We cannot afford more soldiers lives to these kinds of accidents. There are many aircraft enthusiast here from all different backgrounds and I just wanted to raise awareness about our military aircraft lately. 

[scott66]

Dang.. Seeing that list v put up I'm glad I don't do the fso thing.. Looks rough lol

[guncrasher]

This is literally the same footage the guy used from HLN and you can clearly see the cut frames from the same camera angle. 76 cut frames. It's proven. It's not a bird. Birds don't fly that fast. Birds don't disappear.

False... Stop being a Meadwad.

Yes I do. There's clear evidence that MsM tampered with the video. Just because it's "anonomous" doesn't make it fake. This is yet another CIA trick. "Only believe our MSM". Fools and delusions only believing large fascist MSM while simultaneously believing that those same corps are evil. I just don't get it. There's a lot you can learn from anonymous news sources.

just food for thought.  if there was a conspiracy wouldnt it be better to make the video disappear?  after all the CIA has more than enough money to make it happen.  or actually let the c130 crash somewhere where there's no video camera.  sure as hell they cant be that stupid.

semp

[John Galt]

It was a 60 year old plane that had just under gone repairs on the way to Arizona for decommissioning.

You are the one who made my tin foil hat,  and I have been telling you for weeks I wear a 7 1/8" hat,  and you made it 7. 

Some people have their tin foil hats on to tightly, it's restricting the blood flow to the brain.

[John Galt]

I'm sorry, but the earth is round, the Holocaust happene4d, and this is just a plane that went down, not some BS being spouted by the same types of folks who see proof of ancient civilizations on Mars. Time to move along.

Very well put.  Can you please tell Alex Jones the same thing. 

[John Galt]

After watching the video closely, I came to the conclusion it was the Cuban backed CIA shooter from the grassy knoll, that took the plane down.

[wil3ur]

I still say it's inept/poorly trained Puerto Rican National Guard using handmedown poorly maintained aircraft that will all quietly be pushed under the rug and blamed on weather or wind, or something other than top down mismanagement by the DoD leading to the crash.

We could have an entire fleet of new aircraft with the missing 6 trillion + dollars the Pentagon has "misplaced" since 9/10/2001...   

[Vraciu]

I still say it's inept/poorly trained Puerto Rican National Guard using handmedown poorly maintained aircraft that will all quietly be pushed under the rug and blamed on weather or wind, or something other than top down mismanagement by the DoD leading to the crash.

We could have an entire fleet of new aircraft with the missing 6 trillion + dollars the Pentagon has "misplaced" since 9/10/2001...   

This.

(And the plane was NOT sixty years old.  Old enough, but not sixty.)