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Offline Urchin

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« on: November 30, 2001, 10:51:00 PM »
This is going to be a brief one.  We upped out of A2, and went to CAP our fleet that was Southwest of the field.  As we arrived, one, possibly two, squadrons of Hellcats were attempting to occupy our airspace.  A very intense dogfight insued.  Wotan claimed 4 kills, I think I got 2, Brady got 3<?> I think.  Leitwolf claimed one (which he shot off my tail, thanks bud (although you merely postponed the inevitable)).  Raubvogel got 2 or 3, and I think Anrky said he got 1.  I think that is all of our claims.  

We lost Leitwolf, LJKBear,Brady, and AG.  Wotan, myself, Raubvogel, and Anrky survived the melee and returned to A53 (I believe).  On landing, Wotan's main gear collapsed (it had to have been battle damage).  That left 3.  On takeoff, torque sent my rudderless plane hurdling at the tower at a good 100 mph (to slow to takeoff, yet to fast to slow down  :)).  I did my impression of a dog chasing a parked car.  As I told Mason... I can say on good authority that there IS saki in Heaven.  However... dumb people like me that smash into towers on takeoffs don't get any  :(.  

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2001, 11:41:00 PM »
watched my film I got 2 kills 2 assists as other pilots finished um and 2 (i believe augered) argured or were shot shot within my proximity.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2001, 11:54:00 PM »
I got 3, a possible 4th. Rearmed, flew around for an hour bored. No more nme  :)

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2001, 11:57:00 PM »
308 had 4 x Ju 88.  We found some juicy ships.  Unfortunately they took evasive action during our torpedo run.  We lost two aircraft to AAA, two more were damaged.  CFIT and myself went down without firing, Dasko lost an engine and got his fish away, Durr lost a flap and got his fish away.  Hits were not observed but there was no time to watch due to the intense AAA.

Dasko landed safely and Durr went back for a double dip.  Durr got his fish away but he led the fleet just a little too much.  Durr made it home safe.

Totals:
2 Ju 88 KIA.
2 Ju 88 RTB damaged.
6 fish fired at enemy fleet.

308 is done with torpedo duty for all eternity thank you very much.   :)

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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2001, 12:08:00 AM »
JV44 very nice job! You tangle with us Nightmares VMF-101 over by your fleet. I made the mistake of scattering too many of planes as scouts. So instead of hitting 16 Hellcats head on you hit 11 head on. Four were off scouting and I was busy running the Allies at first.

But you did a great job of sticking together and attacking small chunks of us all together. Basically by doing this you were able to defeat us in detail by hitting equal numbers of hellcats all at once. We never got superior numbers on you during the extended fights. Very, very nice tactics and flying there guys.

Out of the 16 that launch only 1 made it home. I am not sure how many you shot down, how many we lost to AAA fire from the fleets (at least 2 I think) and then how many crashed do to battle damage.

Only consolation we have is that our deaths cleared the way for our TBMs to come in uncontested and hit your fleet (332nd got one ship).

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2001, 12:10:00 AM »
Ah so that was the 308th that attack TF41. I got there just in time to spot you guys coming in and put the fleet on evasives just as you were coming in.

As far as I could tell you didn't get any hits.

Nice run .. really well done especially in the face of that intense AAA fire.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2001, 12:38:00 AM »
Rogue Squadron had some difficulties at first with army having to go to work 30mins into the frame but we over came.  We uped 5 F4U-1Ds fully loaded and dropped ordinance after take off but, 1 crashed on take off too much ordiance on plane, to fly as cap for 412th toward HQ we hit HQ at about 22k the IJN zeros were about coalt with us but saw the lower 412th first and blew their alt advantage we dove in 3 of us stayed high to engage enmy fighters while Army suicided into HQ to go to work, Sanddog Yukon and Lhodo all dove in on the zeros Sanddog got 1 confermed yukon damaged 2 (fuel leaks) I got 2 on the first pass and none on the way out.  We returned to the CV where we rearmed and took off again this time half way through the flight we were ordered to go to A9 (btw was on the opposite side of the phillipenes from us)  we headed there got 75% of the way there when CO realized mistake and sent us back after HQ.  We droped on the HQ only seeing 2 zeros remaing to defend 1 with a fuel leak,  I got 1 the other got a away.  But not before he damaged Yukons 'sair(lost elevators) we all RTBed I ordered yukon to fly as long as he could then bail near CV, but he managed to make it back to the CV and bail in the middle of it  :D. So RS reports 2 losses, and 4 kills 2 probables and 6k droped on HQ and 16 rockets.

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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2001, 12:41:00 AM »
Yes, bad me, bad me Rogue. For some reason I got you confused with the 416th in my head and though you were coming out of TF41 instead of TF27th. Sorry about that and sending you against A9 when I should have had you just hit HQ.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2001, 12:44:00 AM »
13th TAS did very poorly on this one.

Initially assigned to patrol the West side, we were called to defend V53 after whoever was over there first got mauled by a mob of US aviators.

Only 3 of us, and we were separated while scouting the West but we all headed to 53.

Two made it to 53 and patrolled empty skies, while I refueled at 12.

As I took off 12, the other two returned to refuel. I got called off 53 to cover Port 24 alone as Swagger and Sour went to refuel. A few minutes later about 11 Hellcats were inbound to 24. I engaged the high cover for a bit and got hits on one, but mostly I was continually flying to keep my six clear. As the fight descended into the port, I made a pass or two on the ground attack aircraft, a BIG mistake. Once I deviated from pure defensive flying, it only took a few minutes to finish me off. Should've just let the port burn.

Swagger got there as they finished off the port and he was instantly in the same defensive situation I had found myself in. The other two TAS arrived a bit later and engaged but by then the Hellcats were all over the 3 Ki's. It didn't last long as the 'Cats seemed to have a definite E and top speed advantage.

One by one the Ki's went down.

Not a good night.

But hey, I had fun. I'll be back again.

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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2001, 04:43:00 AM »
Looking at the numbers 76 to 45 ... I knew from the start that our flight of 7 Zekes would get slaughtered as our KIs last frame.

The heck with it, we will try to survive as long as we can. We could climb to 30K and loiter A9, our CAP point.

Sure enought, here they come ... 20+ F4Us at 30K inbound from the north. The furball lasted for a good 10 min but 1 after the other the zekes went down.

My wingman Pollock and me were the only survivors, we worked very hard to stay way high and not to descend, doing our best to dodge F4s shooting pass. I saw Pollock having to evade an F4 closing his 6. He entered a fight of his own, I was about to come help him but I noticed 4 F4s coming high from the South. (Don't ask me where they came from).
I avoided their pass, still trying to grab alt. Pollock got a kill on a F4U WTG Pollock but last time I saw him he had 11 F4s on him  :cool: Sure enought he got shot down.

I kept playing the alt game and I witnessed the F4s departing the area toward their CV to rearm and come back with bombs.

I was at 30K, I took heading 090 to see if some more would come from the East. Co-alt I spoted 1 dot ... wohoo ... but it quickly became 1.2...5...7..13! After a quick *&^%$#@! I performed the fastest 180 of my life and ran for my life.

I came back over A9 waiting for them, I never saw them. I elected to land to make sure I would have enought fuel for the second wave. I wasn't really planing on killing any of the second wave but maybe I could make them drop their bombs before they hit A9.   :p

I refuelled, reuped and caped A9-CV43-P32. As I was about to come back and land at A9, I spoted smoke and 6 corsairs vulching.

EECK!!!  :eek: I missed them coming in. I dove and did a high speed pass guns blazing right in the middle of them trying to scare some. (high speed pass being relative in a Zeke). I couldn't hit any, they saw me coming, sure enought they started to follow me. I draged them away from the field for a couple of min then they broke away and went back for the field.

I came back to, trying to play the mind game and prevent them from hiting A9 more. When they came back for me I couldn't evade them this time. They were all over. I had to take some serious evasives with all 6 of them wanting me bad.

see pic 1

You got the idea  :) It degenerated in a turnfight, it was a blast, they were all over shooting bullets. Boy did they go into agressive turnfight. I wished I had a Niki, at least they may have been afraid of HOing me.

see pic 2

It lasted a lil bit then I eard a bang and lost a wing, I bailed right away and walked back to my base. The replay gave me the answer, looks like I colided with one of those guys, never saw him.
see pic 3
Raming me was their only hope to shoot me down   ;)  I claim a F4U, I doubt he landed back on the CV with alf a wing. (you never know, but that's what I narated to the Emperor)  :D
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2001, 04:45:00 AM »
BBS wouldn't let me post the pics in the above message, go figure.
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Had a blast as u can see   :D
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2001, 05:48:00 AM »
WTG IJN <S>

We defended becouse we were toataly undernumbers even befor we started the event, and therefor it was important to us to stay on the defended rol. You guys did a impressiv mission<S>.
First 1hour and 20min i think we held them back and held our defending trgt intakt.

308 with FDB come arrund the enemy CV at 11,14 12,13 arena ;) and gott ib releasing 4 torpedoes wtg. but the CV did a evasive manuvours do prevent a hitt :( he he ;)., and the 308 did also a 2 run on it with 2 Ju88 i think ;).

Hope that all IJN had fun with there assigned missions  :)

<S> to both sides, I hade a great time on this one, thx guys :)

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2001, 06:07:00 AM »


I just can't get enough of this.   :p

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2001, 06:13:00 AM »
Sancho do you try to tell that we, were outnumberd or somthing???????  :D

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2001, 06:40:00 AM »
Thought you all might be interested. Here is the map showing the orders for USN's first hop of the night.

Basically we kept pretty close to it except the 412th and Rogue squadron headed straight into the HQ area do to low fuel. And the Nightmares did the reverse patrol patron of what was shown.

Overall the USN TFs were place rather far out from their target areas and it took us a while to get to targets. Also in many cases we had fuel problems .. 332nd had 4 TBMs ditch after a successful flight because they ran out of fuel. And 412th and Rogue really were on vapors by the end of their first and second strikes.

Hope you all find the map interesting.

 
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