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Offline Devil 505

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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2018, 12:33:05 AM »
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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2018, 01:18:53 PM »
+2

Liked the Norwgian winter landscape. Plane set and matchup was alright. Considering four weeks in summer I imagine, We had a hard time to keep the same pilots in our group online to build routine (4 of 6 were walkons/transfers in the last frame). Targets on the coastline and Axis restricted to two lives limited our intercept/combat time - which is needed to wear down buffs. Having the objectives staying down for the entire event helped a little, but the nature of the scenario did make it seem repetitive. No trouble finding the enemy, but multiple factors together quickly put our Fw-190A8s on the defensive which was not a good place to be with our fewer numbers.
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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2018, 09:51:38 AM »
Well, even though it was my idea for the scenario, I have to rate this at a +2.

Some of the problems have been pointed out.

Coastal targets making time over territory for the bombers very short.

Coastal airfields making damaged Luftwaffe planes easy targets for vulching allied aircraft.

Taking away the 109 G-14 group limiting the new players to the K4 that has only 60 rounds of 30MM. This made having to re-arm after a short engagement necessary allowing the bombers to flee and Luftwaffe getting vulched.

Luftwaffe numbers, cannot account for the player base to show up in a design. The allied side filled up almost immediately, Luftwaffe, not so much. I had a lot of walk-ons every frame. Some of whom had never flown scenarios before. Also, some of the capable group leaders that usually fly Luftwaffe decided to sit this one out as well as other usual scenario players.


The scoring was way jacked up.

On a positive note. The fights were fun though sometimes short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9wHvpyEQrg&feature=youtu.be

The plane set was good and was fun to fly later aircraft.



 

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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2018, 10:03:44 AM »
That was my honest opinion.  As far as the scoring or the mechanics of the scenario, yeah there were issues but I've pretty much given up on giving a damn about the spreadsheet.  I genuinely had fun and that was more than I've come to expect from scenarios lately.

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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2018, 12:42:06 PM »
I walked on for two frames I believe.  I enjoyed flying LW this time a great deal.  Met some new good people and I know a lot of people in this community having been here since day one.

Summer time had prolly a lot to do with attendance.  Some of us Scenario participants who have been participating in these events for 20 years or better are spoiled though.  Low participant numbers have started killing these events for quite awhile.  I'm a History Junky like Dan.  We always had more of that in the past.  These events to be special events, should make more time for forming a team, recruiting and practicing.  The more participants the closer the event can become to reality.  The adjustments for balancing also make me cringe a bit.

All in all with the limited time I did participate I'd give it at most a 2.  It is of course because of the low number of participants.  Maybe next time announce the Scenario/Special Event way in advance.  Let participants know they will have time to recruit, form Teams and practice.  More then we have now.  Then after a good period of time (I dunno what that will look like) look at the number of registrants, publicize the event again and take more time to recruit and gain even more participants.  I think the low water mark should be at least 150 participants no less hope fully more.  The design can be made in a more realistic manner.  Terrain size combat will be flown on increased area, targets unknown.  Squadrons launching from more then just a few bases.  Areas of defensive responsibilities.  All this can be real if we get the numbers up.  So time to recruit and plan.  Patience on starting the Scenario (having the numbers to do so) will go along way from melee arena flying and closer to a real WWII battle in the air.  I think in this instance the designers job will be easier and the history junky can be satisfied.  Thanks to the CMS.  I wish I could do the things I've listed.
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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2018, 07:36:43 PM »
+4 for me.  It was a good outing for bombers.

We took some real damage in some frames.  I was sorry to hear that these times when we died or limped smoking home with no real damage done to our targets cost too many Axis fighter lives.  The defense against bombers was possible, but the cost was to high too sustain against our second missions apparently.

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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2018, 01:02:17 AM »
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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2018, 06:01:31 PM »
+5 for me
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Re: Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2018, 05:36:14 PM »
+5 from a bomber pilots viewpoint, but that is not the final score I would give the scenario. The targets were tough to see, which made some of us miss hitting or it might have been even more of a blow out. The Axis had good defense at times, but at others it was almost a cake walk for us, so more opposition would be really cool. Even though the allies "won", I too, think the scoring was off a bit. Scenarios that end up with one side winning all four are probably in need of a tweak or two. Our fighter escort was superb, better than I have seen in a long time, but what was the real reason? Allied air superiority, pilot involvement, or something else. Yes, we bomber pilots had sweat pouring off of us for a short periods of time, but would have liked a bit more interdiction from the defense, and I do not mean that as a slam to the axis fighter pilots. When they hit us, it was pretty good, and I salute the axis pilots for what they did accomplish, being under manned and without some of the better planes. I would like to see more ability for each side to have the chance to score. Having given the +5 from my perspective as a B-24 pilot, I think the best overall score I would give this one would be a +2.5. Maybe the next scenario might use German bombers only so we could mix up the folks side choice a bit. I would certainly chose bomber pilot for either side given that bombers were only available to the Axis side, and there are others who always choose the bomber mission. I am sure there must have been axis bombing in places other than jolly old England. Just my opinion. It was a fun time, and I thank Brooke for letting me in last minute. Thank you to all who participated, hope we can get the participation rate up higher, though.
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