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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2018, 02:16:36 PM »
Advertise and they will come is best solution.   IMHO

No, they won't. We have seen this by now. The way things currently are, you just throw money away with a advertisement campaign.
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2018, 02:16:48 PM »
You even totally ignore facts presented by players who had been there.


'It was practically possible to fly below dar, it wad possible to pork fuel, the HQ, fewer forward spans to towns, '


these are facts, and gameplay differences.

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2018, 02:19:31 PM »
The other poster said something different

These are gameplay differences, and there are probably more small things here and there.


And while you were able to do all this, the numbers dropped.  They started to drop before any significant change was made to AH's gameplay.

(Except for porking fuel, which you already couldn't do anymore by AH1)
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2018, 02:22:21 PM »

And while you were able to do all this, the numbers dropped.  They started to drop before any significant change was made to AH's gameplay.

(Except for porking fuel, which you already couldn't do anymore by AH1)

So what has happened between 2009 and 2016 that players dropped from 700 to 40 on arena?  If gameplay is the same?


Runescape died because it changed gameplay (that is why old school runescape was made)

World of Warcraft is nearly dead because it changed gameplay (that is why classic is being made)

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2018, 02:26:23 PM »
The world is round...back to you, nugetx
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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2018, 02:32:23 PM »
In 2009 half the players probably lost their jobs due to the housing bubble crisis and the onset of the depression. In 2006 fortune 500 companies were already quietly shedding workers. By 2010 half of the remaining AH players not retirees with an income, were probably working their kesters off or moving home with their parents just to pay the bills and had no disposable income to keep paying $14.95 a month to Hitech. 

nuget at that time, if you are not a shade of some adult to troll us, you were probably someone's kid who's parents had jobs and you were "clueless" to how bad many were impacted around the world until recently. While many players could no longer afford $14.95 a month, the FPS era during the depression was helping kids and young adults milk their parents or their own meager bank accounts with the new wave of "freemium" games specifically targeting their demographic to hook them.

Aces High is not those other games you cling to as your perch to pass judgment on Hitech's business acumen.
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2018, 02:33:43 PM »
I find this 'economy' argument pretty moot to be honest, because people from all over the world play this game, and not only from one country.

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2018, 02:38:01 PM »
I find this 'economy' argument pretty moot to be honest, because people from all over the world play this game, and not only from one country.

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Our peek was Feb 2009. The start of the decline was completely due to the economy.

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2018, 02:41:34 PM »
So what has happened between 2009 and 2016 that players dropped from 700 to 40 on arena?  If gameplay is the same?


Runescape died because it changed gameplay (that is why old school runescape was made)

World of Warcraft is nearly dead because it changed gameplay (that is why classic is being made)

The players changed. The game is basically the same as it was in 2009. Better graphics and a bunch of new planes, vehicles, and ships, but the game 8tself hasn't changed much. Fuel parking was done away with long before 2009.

Players changed. No more historians,  no more WWII sim people.  Today's player wouldnt care if it was a P51 they are flying or a space ship. Most would still at it the same way.  We use to log on at night to wage war, out witt and out fight our opponents to that end. We were all WWII pilots in our minds if only for a little while. Now it's a game where players rush to accomplish a number of tasks before the other guy can. This type of play has caused more and more players to just walk away.

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2018, 02:43:20 PM »
If he's not a troll, then he is a still wet behind the ears greenhorn lemming that has a great lot to learn about life....
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2018, 02:48:02 PM »


Get it yet?  :devil

Wow, what horrible economy must be today if there are only 40 people online. It must be the depression of the century !

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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2018, 02:48:50 PM »
So what has happened between 2009 and 2016 that players dropped from 700 to 40 on arena?  If gameplay is the same?




Sometimes you lose customers because you don't change enough. The gaming world has changed a lot over the past 20 years. AH changed quite little in many aspects....
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2018, 03:01:26 PM »
If he's not a troll, then he is a still wet behind the ears greenhorn lemming that has a great lot to learn about life....

He's a troll and according to his past posts, he's been trolling with the same chum for over a year. SMH
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2018, 03:09:29 PM »
I find this 'economy' argument pretty moot to be honest, because people from all over the world play this game, and not only from one country.
I'm from "all over the world" and I've been here since 2001. There's never been too many players during the Euro hours. Already back then I noticed a couple of gaps in the numbers. One is when the prime time (IMO after work, before bedtime) crosses the Atlantic, another starts when it's evening in Asia. During all these years I've only learned to know one single Russian AH'er! Not to mention the lack of players from the Far East. Some Australians hung along quite some time but the numbers during their evenings were very low.

This is an American game with odd players from all over the western world.
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Re: Aces High 'Classic'?
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2018, 03:09:33 PM »
See rule #4
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