Kills per sortie / hour

[Vraciu]

The reality is that your arguement doesn't take into consideration many other sorties that were not taken seriously in attack mode where I died fooling around. Many also in high eny planes. Your premise is flawed in the sense that skyyr only flew ez mode fighter sorties and never flew as many squad base take missions, attack missions to CVs, ect ect.. as I did. I don't need to fly La7s and 190Ds. Skyyr also took his stats seriously from the time he started while I did not. Measuring his K/D relative to mine over 10 years just isn't compatible. I could start a new account tomorrow, only fly fighters like the LA7 every time, and completely blow skyyrs K/D K/S and hit% out of the water for a year. If you don't believe me just go ahead and bet me like Kruel did . I am far more superior in the MA than skyyr was. Overall fighter rank stats will prove it.

I guess you were just "goofing around" which is why he beat you the next two tours, huh?   

"I would beat you every tour but I'm just goofing around." 

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[The Fugitive]

  Works for me, thanks dude.

Here ya go.

[horble]

Cool, thanks!  That Spit 8 is a lot higher in the list than I’d thought..

[DmonSlyr]

I guess you were just "goofing around" which is why he beat you the next two tours, huh?   

"I would beat you every tour but I'm just goofing around." 

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I beat his fighter rank more times than he did mine and had I better fighter K/D + K/S in the fighter category, undeniable, in more planes. He really wasn't that great in the MA, especially for how many hours he played. His margin for K/D was always around 3. That is low in fighter metrics, probably top 50 per month maybe.... Most of the time a low 2 K/S. That to me is not reflective of phenomenal air combat in the MA. He was really only successful in low eny trainer planes so he could escape the fight. That doesn't compare to me in the slightest. He was an average MA player who played way too much and took it way too seriously in which had to "game" literally, the game to be successful. Lets face it, anyone who dies as much as skyyr would have a high kills/time with regards to quick kills in La7s off the base.  It's quite laughable that you are trying to compare his performance by base #s against mine when there really is no comparison as I was never competing with skyyr for 10 years of playing in the MA to begin with...Overall his top figher ranks don't even touch mine.     

[FLOOB]

This computer game's scoring system is gamey

[The Fugitive]

I beat his fighter rank more times than he did mine and had I better fighter K/D + K/S in the fighter category, undeniable, in more planes. He really wasn't that great in the MA, especially for how many hours he played. His margin for K/D was always around 3. That is low in fighter metrics, probably top 50 per month maybe.... Most of the time a low 2 K/S. That to me is not reflective of phenomenal air combat in the MA. He was really only successful in low eny trainer planes so he could escape the fight. That doesn't compare to me in the slightest. He was an average MA player who played way too much and took it way too seriously in which had to "game" literally, the game to be successful. Lets face it, anyone who dies as much as skyyr would have a high kills/time with regards to quick kills in La7s off the base.  It's quite laughable that you are trying to compare his performance by base #s against mine when there really is no comparison as I was never competing with skyyr for 10 years of playing in the MA to begin with...Overall his top figher ranks don't even touch mine.     

Looks like a perfect example of why the scoring system is "gamey"   

[nrshida]

Maybe this will help you, this is you as "nrshida" over the last 10 years in AH.

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That's awesome, thanks Fugitive. Clearly the way forward for me is as a ship's gunner. Look at my kill death ratio, even though I did no training and, actually, have no memory of trying to shoot anyone down in a ship's gun 

 

[nrshida]

I see you flying 109K4s and KI84s, talk about Easy Mode.          

I know you two are locked into a dispute, but I would like to point out the small but significant thing - which the score doesn't register at all - context. Experientially, I've flown the Ta152 a bit and the Mosquito a fair bit, and when flown 'properly' they are way more easy mode than pitching my Ki-84 against 2-4 opponents low down & without an energy advantage.

[nrshida]

I don't understand your angle in all of this.

Who? 

[DmonSlyr]

Looks like a perfect example of why the scoring system is "gamey"   

How is that a perfect example? I don't see your point.  There are different mode scores. There are overall stats pages from there. Overall stat pages don't take into account which mode you scored in. Vraciu, before he became glued on comparing my stats to Skyyr, just thought that being top 40 in fighters (which is actually low) from 1 or 2 sorties is "gaming the ranks" but in reality those 2 runs could have scored better metrics than 95% of players besides the points, which points are designed to slow down that issue. He did not take into consideration  how I play attack mode for higher eny planes to fool around, and just compared that to my"overall  Ma performance" which is a very weak arguement. Before, back in tour 82, I had 49K points and still scored 108 in that metric. The reason why he's able to score at 40 overall with such a low point count is because of the overall player #s. There's nothing gamey about it. Try to get a 5 kill sortie every single run for 15 runs and see how hard that is.

[nrshida]

Try to get a 5 kill sortie every single run for 15 runs and see how hard that is.

Shoot Violator, I'm lucky to find 5 enemies for some of the hours I fly on

[DmonSlyr]

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I certainly understand your gripe about K/H being in that time zone. When you jump into a big furball, you can get 3-4 quickly and land. If there's only 2-3 cons to fight against at all, it does severely impact your K/H if you are stuck in the sky trying to get more kills. It's a tough metric because you are always racing against time. It's more about what is going on in the environment rather than taking your sole skill into consideration. It could be argued though. I do think it also takes away from players who like to have long sorties and need to when the fights are smaller.

[DubiousKB]

quickly, someone argue my stats - I need an ego boost on a dismal Monday!      

[nrshida]

It's a tough metric because you are always racing against time.

Yes and I don't have so much time to play which is why bailing is attractive.

[Vraciu]

I beat his fighter rank more times than he did mine and had I better fighter K/D + K/S in the fighter category, undeniable, in more planes. He really wasn't that great in the MA, especially for how many hours he played. His margin for K/D was always around 3. That is low in fighter metrics, probably top 50 per month maybe.... Most of the time a low 2 K/S. That to me is not reflective of phenomenal air combat in the MA. He was really only successful in low eny trainer planes so he could escape the fight. That doesn't compare to me in the slightest. He was an average MA player who played way too much and took it way too seriously in which had to "game" literally, the game to be successful. Lets face it, anyone who dies as much as skyyr would have a high kills/time with regards to quick kills in La7s off the base.  It's quite laughable that you are trying to compare his performance by base #s against mine when there really is no comparison as I was never competing with skyyr for 10 years of playing in the MA to begin with...Overall his top figher ranks don't even touch mine.     

#FakeNews

Skyyr didn’t skirt the edges of a fight like you usually do.  He waded into the middle and had better stats in every metric.   You with your  84s and K4s are hardly flying “inferior” rides. 

He had 150% more total kills at a higher rate (K/H) and ratio (K/D) than you do and he did it in 25% of the time flown.   But you’re the superior pilot?   

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